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Topic	Apparently the Supergirl actress was in an abusive relationship
joe40001 11/30/19 6:35:41 AM #69:	pegusus123456 posted... joe40001 posted... Nobody is arguing that the person is not in a shitty situation. I'm only inferring that thing to the end of it because people are saying "they are in a shitty situation" as some kind of rebuttal to me when I say "they need to get out of the relationship and contact the authorities if necessary". If you aren't disagreeing then why disagree is what I'm confused by I guess. Like if we are all in agreement that "yeah it's shitty, and yeah if you are in a relationship where you are physically abused you should gtfo and contact police if necessary" then I don't understand why people are giving me a hard time. Because the way you're arguing implies the person is stupid for not just leaving. Like this argument started by someone pointing out that it isn't as simple as just leaving for people in these relationships and you simply said, "Why not?" and then just repeated that over and over again. I never called anybody stupid. It is simple, maybe it's very hard but it is simple. If somebody is physically abusing you gtfo and contact police if necessary. They are not bad people for being abused, I have empathy for them, but it's the wrong choice to stay with somebody who is physically abusing you, and I'll confidently stand by that stance. I have a pet peeve of when people's "empathy" leads to more suffering, and telling people it's too hard to leave abusive relationships or they are basically hostages leads to more unneeded suffering. Empathy should be in service of helping people, when your empathy starts going into the area where it enables if not encourages people to stay in abusive relationships longer then your empathy is kinda fucked up and I want no part of it. I'd much rather be an "asshole" that gets a person out of a domestic abuse relationship, than a "empathetic" person that empowers them to stay there feeling helpless. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:930901652] in Apparently... [t:78207853]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody is arguing that the person is not in a shitty situation. I'm only inferring that thing to the end of it because people are saying "they are in a shitty situation" as some kind of rebuttal to me when I say "they need to get out of the relationship and contact the authorities if necessary". If you aren't disagreeing then why disagree is what I'm confused by I guess. Like if we are all in agreement that "yeah it's shitty, and yeah if you are in a relationship where you are physically abused you should gtfo and contact police if necessary" then I don't understand why people are giving me a hard time.</quote> Because the way you're arguing implies the person is stupid for not just leaving. Like this argument started by someone pointing out that it isn't as simple as just leaving for people in these relationships and you simply said, "Why not?" and then just repeated that over and over again.</quote> I never called anybody stupid. It is simple, maybe it's very hard but it is simple. If somebody is physically abusing you gtfo and contact police if necessary. They are not bad people for being abused, I have empathy for them, but it's the wrong choice to stay with somebody who is physically abusing you, and I'll confidently stand by that stance. I have a pet peeve of when people's "empathy" leads to more suffering, and telling people it's too hard to leave abusive relationships or they are basically hostages leads to more unneeded suffering. Empathy should be in service of helping people, when your empathy starts going into the area where it enables if not encourages people to stay in abusive relationships longer then your empathy is kinda fucked up and I want no part of it. I'd much rather be an "asshole" that gets a person out of a domestic abuse relationship, than a "empathetic" person that empowers them to stay there feeling helpless. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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