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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 245: Delecto the Funky Mormon Senator
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10/25/19 1:51:17 PM
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That's like saying a real leader would be able to secure sovereign independent nations for Taiwan and Hong Kong. When two groups are ideologically completely opposed to the point of no return, there is not much that can be done besides trying.


Bringing this back to its original context. You raised this comparison first with this post.

My point has been that this is a bad comparison because Taiwan and Hong Kong never expressed a wish to be independent countries at a time when such a thing was possible. So I disagree strongly with the implication that they are "ideologically completely opposed to the point of no return." No, Taiwan and Hong Kong have always been committed to return.

I also don't really agree that Turkey and the Kurds are opposed to the point of no return. They are no more doomed to war than the US and USSR were. And the US and USSR never went to war with each other.
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