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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 244: All Presidents of the Last Century are Criminals
red sox 777 10/20/19 8:57:09 AM #394:	Lightning Strikes posted... metaIslug posted... EU needs to give the UK the proverbial boot. Absolutely not. This would mean no deal brexit which would completely screw Ireland, cause major damage across the EU and probably trigger a global crisis. This will never happen. What actually needs to happen is simply to have a public vote on the deal or remain. Something which a million people marched for in London yesterday, and I'm happy to say I flew back just to take part. The number of signs referencing Untitled Goose Game pleasantly surprised me. This would be incredibly unfair to the people who want to leave with no deal. If you must have a binary referendum it should be between the deal and no deal, since remain was already ruled out by both the last referendum and the manifesto pledges of the last general election. If you must have remain as an option, you need something like ranked choice voting. Or if that is too much against the received wisdom of 800 years of elections in Britain and her colonies (and very wise wisdom it is, the Tory Party's great error was to ignore it and hold national referenda to decide major issues; the Republican Party would never make such colossal errors of allowing non-FPTP elections or to give even the appearance that the national popular vote holds the slightest shred of legitimacy), then you should accept the offer of a general election. Of course, there is nothing to stop the UK as a whole from reapplying for membership in the EU after it leaves. The EU has already said they would be happy to have the UK back. And in the interest of fairness Scotland and Northern Ireland should be given the option to leave the UK and remain in the EU without any of the BS about non-guaranteed membership Spain pulled during the Scottish referendum in 2014. Actually, England should be given that option too - if, say, Northern Ireland rejoined Ireland and England and Scotland both exercised that option, the legal entity known as the United Kingdom would be dissolved, the kingdoms of England and Scotland restored, and they would each have a seat in the EU. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:929001610] in Politics C... [t:78093278]...</cite> <quote>Lightning Strikes posted...</cite> <quote>metaIslug posted...</cite> <quote>EU needs to give the UK the proverbial boot.</quote> Absolutely not. This would mean no deal brexit which would completely screw Ireland, cause major damage across the EU and probably trigger a global crisis. This will never happen. What actually needs to happen is simply to have a public vote on the deal or remain. Something which a million people marched for in London yesterday, and I'm happy to say I flew back just to take part. The number of signs referencing Untitled Goose Game pleasantly surprised me.</quote> This would be incredibly unfair to the people who want to leave with no deal. If you must have a binary referendum it should be between the deal and no deal, since remain was already ruled out by both the last referendum and the manifesto pledges of the last general election. If you must have remain as an option, you need something like ranked choice voting. Or if that is too much against the received wisdom of 800 years of elections in Britain and her colonies (and very wise wisdom it is, the Tory Party's great error was to ignore it and hold national referenda to decide major issues; the Republican Party would never make such colossal errors of allowing non-FPTP elections or to give even the appearance that the national popular vote holds the slightest shred of legitimacy), then you should accept the offer of a general election. Of course, there is nothing to stop the UK as a whole from reapplying for membership in the EU after it leaves. The EU has already said they would be happy to have the UK back. And in the interest of fairness Scotland and Northern Ireland should be given the option to leave the UK and remain in the EU without any of the BS about non-guaranteed membership Spain pulled during the Scottish referendum in 2014. Actually, England should be given that option too - if, say, Northern Ireland rejoined Ireland and England and Scotland both exercised that option, the legal entity known as the United Kingdom would be dissolved, the kingdoms of England and Scotland restored, and they would each have a seat in the EU. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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