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Topic	I'm playing Oblivion for the first time
masterpug53 10/10/19 8:09:57 PM #79:	MasterGakke posted... The problem with the leveling system isn't that it makes the game impossible if you don't min/max, it's just that you don't feel like you're actually getting stronger unless you do. There's a huge disconnect between supposedly being this massive hero, the head of several guilds, and having the stuff you fight never get easier or even get a little harder as you go along. Even if you do min/max, the line between getting to feel strong while fighting and completely breaking the game is precipitous as hell. You can make yourself completely invisible or completely impervious to damage way too easily, but if you just want to lay down a minotaur in a few swings the sword instead of 20 you're out of luck. I finally got serious about playing Morrowind when it released for download on XB1. I haven't actually done an Oblivion playthrough since before Skyrim came out, so I was rusty on the old ES leveling system. I even went as far as following a build guide that suggested shudder the Atronach sign. I've played tons of Oblivion and Skyrim, I knew what the Atronach sign is, I should have known what I was getting into. I went with that build, just took the highest attribute bonuses available, and I quit that shit in disgust somewhere around Ald'ruhn. A few months later when the bile subsided, I wised up and made my own build: one major per attribute, only two majors that I actually planned on using in regular gameplay, making damn sure to get Endurance to 100 asap (even taking whichever birth sign gave a +25 END boost so I could get a leg up). It was like night and day. I enjoyed the hell out it, even though it bore the tedium of keeping track of every single skill increase. Morrowind isn't perfectly comparable to Oblivion in this case, but it's close enough. On my first playthrough I did not enjoy scrambling around ~~Kvatch~~ trying to find ledges where I could slowly cheese all the Daedroth and Xivilai and everything else against which I was pathetically underpowered. Pair this with my moderate OCD towards these types of things and you'd never again catch me playing either game without a controlled build. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:928608999] in I'm playin... [t:78066469]...</cite> <quote>MasterGakke posted...</cite> <quote>The problem with the leveling system isn't that it makes the game impossible if you don't min/max, it's just that you don't feel like you're actually getting stronger unless you do. There's a huge disconnect between supposedly being this massive hero, the head of several guilds, and having the stuff you fight never get easier or even get a little harder as you go along. Even if you do min/max, the line between getting to feel strong while fighting and completely breaking the game is precipitous as hell. You can make yourself completely invisible or completely impervious to damage way too easily, but if you just want to lay down a minotaur in a few swings the sword instead of 20 you're out of luck.</quote> I finally got serious about playing Morrowind when it released for download on XB1. I haven't actually done an Oblivion playthrough since before Skyrim came out, so I was rusty on the old ES leveling system. I even went as far as following a build guide that suggested shudder the Atronach sign. I've played tons of Oblivion and Skyrim, I knew what the Atronach sign is, I should have known what I was getting into. I went with that build, just took the highest attribute bonuses available, and I quit that shit in disgust somewhere around Ald'ruhn. A few months later when the bile subsided, I wised up and made my own build: one major per attribute, only two majors that I actually planned on using in regular gameplay, making damn sure to get Endurance to 100 asap (even taking whichever birth sign gave a +25 END boost so I could get a leg up). It was like night and day. I enjoyed the hell out it, even though it bore the tedium of keeping track of every single skill increase. Morrowind isn't perfectly comparable to Oblivion in this case, but it's close enough. On my first playthrough I did not enjoy scrambling around Kvatch trying to find ledges where I could slowly cheese all the Daedroth and Xivilai and everything else against which I was pathetically underpowered. Pair this with my moderate OCD towards these types of things and you'd never again catch me playing either game without a controlled build. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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