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Aaantlion 08/04/19 9:18:16 PM #23:	Gaawa_chan posted... Aaantlion posted... What? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAzDn7tE1lU" data-time=" Your evidence for the accusation seems insufficient. The only thing you've definitely shown is that the press secretary made offensive remarks and publicly didn't take the matter seriously. It doesn't demonstrate what the administration may or may not have been doing, let alone show -- as you seem to imply -- that it was a deliberate act on Reagan's part. Mead posted... Yep weve got a large part of the aids epidemic, mass incarceration, and the failed war on drugs to deal with all because he thought he could run the country like it was one of his old films You can hardly pin issues like mass incarceration or the war on drugs to any one president. For starters, even the phrase "war on drugs" doesn't come from Reagan (Nixon popularized it in the early 70s) and punitive sentencing policies passed in the early 70s quickly caused the prison population to swell. Prison population growth steadily grew under Nixon, Reagan, Bush, and Clinton until it began to taper off during the GWB years. Gaawa_chan posted... Mead posted... Yep weve got a large part of the aids epidemic, mass incarceration, and the failed war on drugs to deal with all because he thought he could run the country like it was one of his old films I am somewhat hesitant to fault people for not knowing as much as they ought to about the 1970's-1990's, as if their education was anything like mine, their classes didn't even cover anything that happened in those years outside of the Vietnam War. So people tend to not know about Nixon's Supreme Court appointees throwing open the doors to financial corruption in the US government, that the HIV epidemic was completely preventable but the Reagan Administration refused to do anything about it despite the CDC begging them to, etc... but at the same time, we live in the age of the internet. People really don't have an excuse for not knowing these things anymore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyJ1JdnaSqA" data-time=" The "age of the internet" is better called the "Misinformation Age." Case-in-point may be your reliance on alt-news like the Humanist Report. As for the "complete preventability" of HIV, keep in mind that HIV didn't originate in (nor was it limited to) the US and even if the early cases had been isolated, that wouldn't stop additional cases. I will mention that I attempted to google statistics to determine the prevalence of the disease in each nation on a per capita basis and to see the incidence level+response for each nation, but didn't have any luck. If you have that information -- which would do more to establish your case than posting a video of some people laughing in a press pool -- I'd be happy to see it. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| <cite>Aaantlion posted [p:925628090] in Lyndon B. ... [t:77914235]...</cite> <quote>Gaawa_chan posted...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>What?</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAzDn7tE1lU" data-time="</quote> Your evidence for the accusation seems insufficient. The only thing you've definitely shown is that the press secretary made offensive remarks and publicly didn't take the matter seriously. It doesn't demonstrate what the administration may or may not have been doing, let alone show -- as you seem to imply -- that it was a deliberate act on Reagan's part. Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Yep weve got a large part of the aids epidemic, mass incarceration, and the failed war on drugs to deal with all because he thought he could run the country like it was one of his old films </quote> You can hardly pin issues like mass incarceration or the war on drugs to any one president. For starters, even the phrase "war on drugs" doesn't come from Reagan (Nixon popularized it in the early 70s) and punitive sentencing policies passed in the early 70s quickly caused the prison population to swell. Prison population growth steadily grew under Nixon, Reagan, Bush, and Clinton until it began to taper off during the GWB years. Gaawa_chan posted...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Yep weve got a large part of the aids epidemic, mass incarceration, and the failed war on drugs to deal with all because he thought he could run the country like it was one of his old films </quote> I am somewhat hesitant to fault people for not knowing as much as they ought to about the 1970's-1990's, as if their education was anything like mine, their classes didn't even cover anything that happened in those years outside of the Vietnam War. So people tend to not know about Nixon's Supreme Court appointees throwing open the doors to financial corruption in the US government, that the HIV epidemic was completely preventable but the Reagan Administration refused to do anything about it despite the CDC begging them to, etc... but at the same time, we live in the age of the internet. People really don't have an excuse for not knowing these things anymore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyJ1JdnaSqA" data-time="</quote> The "age of the internet" is better called the "Misinformation Age." Case-in-point may be your reliance on alt-news like the Humanist Report. As for the "complete preventability" of HIV, keep in mind that HIV didn't originate in (nor was it limited to) the US and even if the early cases had been isolated, that wouldn't stop additional cases. I will mention that I attempted to google statistics to determine the prevalence of the disease in each nation on a per capita basis and to see the incidence level+response for each nation, but didn't have any luck. If you have that information -- which would do more to establish your case than posting a video of some people laughing in a press pool -- I'd be happy to see it. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\|</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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