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Topic	Woman: Has abortion, no problem. Man: Attempts to give abortion pill, 22 years
darkphoenix181 10/17/18 5:43:06 PM #256:	King_Hellebuyck posted... darkphoenix181 posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Why dont you just read what I actually said instead of trying to find a gotcha? There is a reason I ask questions. Questions allow you to answer them as you wish to show what you believe and lay the ground work of understanding. You said the woman's intent for it to be a person makes that murder right? These are questions that follow from that statement. If she intends it to be a person, that means at present it is not a person right? So what the man killed was not a person right? Who then was murdered? This is the point where I know you understand what Im saying and realize you dont have a counter. Wtf You don't make sense. I am not the one refusing to answer questions or clarify my position when claiming my position was misrepsented. You can't claim I literally quoting you misrepsented what you said, and then claim I comprehend your point totally at the same time... especially when I asked you to clarify it and you refuse.... All I get from you now is you fear one of these questions but don't want your position known lest it be scrutinized. In any case, I will summarize my points as I am not afraid to clarify my position. 1. Hiding behind unexplained nuance doesn't make up for lack of logic 2. Nothing changes in the cells to make it now a person 3. Violation of consent is assault or rape, not murder 4. Murder requires a dead person, not clump of cells 5. Desire for cells to grow doesn't make it a person or change the biology of them 6. If consent did change it to a person as suggested, the woman couldn't change her mind and abort later on Yes, she can want the baby at first and then abort later. This really exposes your position that consent somehow makes cells a person. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:910700443] in Woman: Has... [t:77104705]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Why dont you just read what I actually said instead of trying to find a gotcha?</quote> There is a reason I ask questions. Questions allow you to answer them as you wish to show what you believe and lay the ground work of understanding. You said the woman's intent for it to be a person makes that murder right? These are questions that follow from that statement. If she intends it to be a person, that means at present it is not a person right? So what the man killed was not a person right? Who then was murdered?</quote> This is the point where I know you understand what Im saying and realize you dont have a counter.</quote> Wtf You don't make sense. I am not the one refusing to answer questions or clarify my position when claiming my position was misrepsented. You can't claim I literally quoting you misrepsented what you said, and then claim I comprehend your point totally at the same time... especially when I asked you to clarify it and you refuse.... All I get from you now is you fear one of these questions but don't want your position known lest it be scrutinized. In any case, I will summarize my points as I am not afraid to clarify my position. 1. Hiding behind unexplained nuance doesn't make up for lack of logic 2. Nothing changes in the cells to make it now a person 3. Violation of consent is assault or rape, not murder 4. Murder requires a dead person, not clump of cells 5. Desire for cells to grow doesn't make it a person or change the biology of them 6. If consent did change it to a person as suggested, the woman couldn't change her mind and abort later on Yes, she can want the baby at first and then abort later. This really exposes your position that consent somehow makes cells a person. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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