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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Eddv 09/07/18 12:51:50 AM #254:	Jakyl25 posted... Eddv posted... LMAO Andrew Johnson was an AWFUL politician. Not even just because he was super duper moderate on punishing the South, but just because he was so completely ineffective. Wasnt Johnson selected for VP mostly as a concession by Lincoln and the Republicans to the South, or is that just what they tell us in school? That's most of it - what it misses is that he basically was trying to play to the political center. It looked like the Radical faction of the Republican Party was going to run John Fremont as a presidential candidate and it was not at all clear that he would have actually won re-nomination for the Republican Party, so he didn't run on their ticket but instead on the National Union ticket, which included the War Democrats represented by Johnson. the Radicals then formed the Radical Democratic party and ran Fremont. The Copperhead Democrats/Former Whig nominated McClellan who proved to be a surprisingly strong candidate and Lincoln's allies even up convincing Fremont to drop out of the race because there was a real fear McClellan would win. So yes, it was a concession to Democrats, but it was also kind of a 'fuck you' to Charles Sumner and emblematic of the real fear he would lose the election of 1864. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 <cite>Eddv posted [p:908268615] in Politics C... [t:76966914]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Eddv posted...</cite> <quote>LMAO Andrew Johnson was an AWFUL politician. Not even just because he was super duper moderate on punishing the South, but just because he was so completely ineffective. </quote> Wasnt Johnson selected for VP mostly as a concession by Lincoln and the Republicans to the South, or is that just what they tell us in school?</quote> That's most of it - what it misses is that he basically was trying to play to the political center. It looked like the Radical faction of the Republican Party was going to run John Fremont as a presidential candidate and it was not at all clear that he would have actually won re-nomination for the Republican Party, so he didn't run on their ticket but instead on the National Union ticket, which included the War Democrats represented by Johnson. the Radicals then formed the Radical Democratic party and ran Fremont. The Copperhead Democrats/Former Whig nominated McClellan who proved to be a surprisingly strong candidate and Lincoln's allies even up convincing Fremont to drop out of the race because there was a real fear McClellan would win. So yes, it was a concession to Democrats, but it was also kind of a 'fuck you' to Charles Sumner and emblematic of the real fear he would lose the election of 1864. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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