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TopicDo Richard Spencer and other Neo-Nazis deserve to be punched?
ScazarMeltex
08/18/18 11:56:01 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
Payzmaykr posted...
No. They deserve to be ignored. There is never any circumstance in which words constitute a violent response. That speaks for the character of the person involved.

If somebody is spouting off hate speech, he looks bad. If you hit him, then you both look bad.


Karl Popper said it best.

"Less well known is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant."

That's just a fancy way of encouraging violence

No it's a way to remind people that tolerance of everything leads to intolerance running the show, i'm not surprised that you aren't smart to understand that.

Here perhaps is something you might actually grasp.
And so, I established in 1919 a programme and tendency that was a conscious slap in the face of the democratic-pacifist world. [We knew] it might take five or ten or twenty years, yet gradually an authoritarian state arose within the democratic state, and a nucleus of fanatical devotion and ruthless determination formed in a wretched world that lacked basic convictions.

Only one danger could have jeopardised this development if our adversaries had understood its principle, established a clear understanding of our ideas, and not offered any resistance. Or, alternatively, if they had from the first day annihilated with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement.

Neither was done. The times were such that our adversaries were no longer capable of accomplishing our annihilation, nor did they have the nerve. Arguably, they furthermore lacked the understanding to assume a wholly appropriate attitude. Instead, they began to tyrannise our young movement by bourgeois means, and, by doing so, they assisted the process of natural selection in a very fortunate manner. From there on, it was only a question of time until the leadership of the nation would fall to our hardened human material."

Adolf Hitler: Die Reden Hitlers am Reichsparteitag 1933,
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