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Topic	Father is charged with MURDER of his 12 y/o DAUGHTER even though a COP SHOT HER
Zeus 08/03/18 1:48:58 PM #36:	Kyuubi4269 posted... If the police's response to danger is to kill it, they need to be retrained. Even in the military it's standard to find cover first when an unexpected attack occurs. When you're feet away from a guy with a much more powerful weapon, finding cover is the stupidest move possible. And when somebody draws a gun on a cop, shooting isn't an unreasonable response. Kyuubi4269 posted... Literally the definition of victim blaming. Yes he made a bad move and he is absolutely responsible for all action taken against him, but his daughter being harmed was an unfortunate accident that couldn't have been reasonably anticipated. No, it's literally the definition of legal culpability. Actual victim-blaming is completely different and certainly doesn't involve somebody who committed a criminal act that resulted in somebody getting killed. Kyuubi4269 posted... This is why your cops are so trigger happy, you encourage shooting to kill on reflex. That's not "reflex," that's a snap-second judgment call because you only have a second to react to somebody pulling on a gun on you if they fire. And anybody deranged enough to pull a gun on a cop can reasonably be assumed to be unhinged or dangerous. Revelation34 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... If the police's response to danger is to kill it, they need to be retrained. Even in the military it's standard to find cover first when an unexpected attack occurs. They should be trained like the military. No, they shouldn't. They're a civilian peace-keeping force. The demands are very different from the military and, I might add, the military has a very long history of using what the public deems unacceptable violence because, again, you have split-second decisions that need to be made and precedents for ignored threats turning violent. This includes the infamous case where women and children were shot at a checkpoint. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/apr/01/iraq.rorymccarthy So yeah, military training, huh? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:906206629] in Father is ... [t:76856997]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>If the police's response to danger is to kill it, they need to be retrained. Even in the military it's standard to find cover first when an unexpected attack occurs.</quote> When you're feet away from a guy with a much more powerful weapon, finding cover is the stupidest move possible. And when somebody draws a gun on a cop, shooting isn't an unreasonable response. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Literally the definition of victim blaming. Yes he made a bad move and he is absolutely responsible for all action taken against him, but his daughter being harmed was an unfortunate accident that couldn't have been reasonably anticipated.</quote> No, it's literally the definition of legal culpability. Actual victim-blaming is completely different and certainly doesn't involve somebody who committed a criminal act that resulted in somebody getting killed. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>This is why your cops are so trigger happy, you encourage shooting to kill on reflex.</quote> That's not "reflex," that's a snap-second judgment call because you only have a second to react to somebody pulling on a gun on you if they fire. And anybody deranged enough to pull a gun on a cop can reasonably be assumed to be unhinged or dangerous. <cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>If the police's response to danger is to kill it, they need to be retrained. Even in the military it's standard to find cover first when an unexpected attack occurs.</quote> They should be trained like the military.</quote> No, they shouldn't. They're a civilian peace-keeping force. The demands are very different from the military and, I might add, the military has a very long history of using what the public deems unacceptable violence because, again, you have split-second decisions that need to be made and precedents for ignored threats turning violent. This includes the infamous case where women and children were shot at a checkpoint. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/apr/01/iraq.rorymccarthy So yeah, military training, huh? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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