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Topic	Chinese fans described The Last Jedi as an insult to the IQ of the audience.
TommyG663513 07/05/18 3:40:51 PM #66:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... Just because a character is strong doesn't negate their weaknesses. Luke even said he got arrogant and just assumed that he would be this amazing awesome Jedi Master teaching a new crop of Jedi apprentices. He didn't even think about someone being able to infiltrate his thoughts. I almost feel like the movie does a great job of showing that even a heroic figure can have failures and faults. It's also incredibly reflective of the weaknesses of his father. You can argue that Luke should have learned from those mistakes and overcome them, but then you get into Mary Sue territory like they did in the Extended Universe where he was almost a god. It doesn't matter, because "Mary Sue" and "child killer" aren't the only two options here. His father was manipulated into murdering a bunch of children. Luke Skywalker was manipulated into seeing another Darth Vader, not feeling like he had the power to stop him, and thus contemplating FOR A MOMENT making sure it didn't happen. People creating a narrative just to shit all over something they don't like. If only everyone was as smart and objective as you. Where did you get that Snoke was manipulating Luke? I swear, TLJ defenders tend to just fill in the gaps with their own made up plot elements to justify this film. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:904545168] in Chinese fa... [t:76775945]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>Just because a character is strong doesn't negate their weaknesses. Luke even said he got arrogant and just assumed that he would be this amazing awesome Jedi Master teaching a new crop of Jedi apprentices. He didn't even think about someone being able to infiltrate his thoughts. I almost feel like the movie does a great job of showing that even a heroic figure can have failures and faults. It's also incredibly reflective of the weaknesses of his father. You can argue that Luke should have learned from those mistakes and overcome them, but then you get into Mary Sue territory like they did in the Extended Universe where he was almost a god.</quote> It doesn't matter, because "Mary Sue" and "child killer" aren't the only two options here.</quote> His father was manipulated into murdering a bunch of children. Luke Skywalker was manipulated into seeing another Darth Vader, not feeling like he had the power to stop him, and thus contemplating FOR A MOMENT making sure it didn't happen. People creating a narrative just to shit all over something they don't like.</quote> If only everyone was as smart and objective as you. Where did you get that Snoke was manipulating Luke? I swear, TLJ defenders tend to just fill in the gaps with their own made up plot elements to justify this film. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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