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cjsdowg posted...

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So you have no answer to two very simple questions. What codified discrimination is there that limits black opportunity? Why is mandating equal outcomes your answer to injustice?

And there absolutely is equal opportunity by law now. If there isn't, you should be able to pretty easily point to a law or policy that illustrates otherwise.

I have literally post studies that show the racism that black people face.

I didn't say any debt is paid. I asked you at what point you would consider the historical injustices atoned for? What tangible standard do you have to consider the mission accomplished.

That is the point we don't have to go to history to see injustices happening. And to answer there is nothing that can undo what happen. The GI bill, the Homestead act ect built the middle class in America Black people were actively pushed out of this. Redlining forced black people in bad parts of town, it was super hard to get business load. I could keep going on and on. But yeah lets forget that can complain because black guy got 16 points added to his application. While someone else got 35 points added but were black so it doesn't matter.

Your studies are completely IRRELEVANT. I asked you what specific law or policy is in place that discriminates against blacks. You and I agree that the racism you're talking about shouldn't happen. But the way to fix that is to 1) provide equal opportunity UNDER THE LAW and 2) work to socially address the issue.

Number 1 is already done, which is my whole point. Number 2, I don't believe the solution is legislating equal outcome. The solution is already happening. Social change. It is happening as evident by the fact that black people are better equipped to succeed and/or get rich now than ever before in this country and probably the world.

Affirmative action has served it's purpose. I think blacks are well equipped and perfectly capable and willing to take it from here. It's a shame you don't believe in them.