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Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 1:53:11 PM #79:	adjl posted... I'd love to hear why you think that's comparable. With numbers. Good luck. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/acid-attack-violence-in-london-soars-by-more-than-78-per-cent-a3736516.html https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/01/22/americas/mexico-murders-2017/index.html 78% increase vs 23% increase, London is getting worse quicker so my concern in my country grows quicker than Mexico's. (Note: I am not claiming London is in a worse condition, only that the situation is worsening quicker). adjl posted... You're very much fixating on a different issue to avoid admitting that you said something stupid when you said that these people only have themselves to blame for increasing their risk of getting murdered. Not at all. They still can't justify leaving because their shithole has gained a little more poop recently, they only get to leave when a crisis takes place and they can seek refuge. While they are not to blame for the risk increasing (don't put words in my mouth), they are to blame for not lowering it. adjl posted... You seem to be conflating all of Mexico with the decisions of individual immigrants, and I'm not really sure why. It's really not unreasonable to say "I'm going to die if I stay here, I'm going to go somewhere where I'll have a better chance," even if that other chance also isn't that great. It's not unreasonable, but by the same token it's not unreasonable to say "They may be at risk of dying if we don't let them in, but if we let them in we may actually endangering our own so we best not let them in.". It's also not unreasonable for them to say "I'm probably going to die if I stay here, but I'm going to fight the cartel with my suffering neighbours to chase a better chance for my kids," even if that chance also isn't that great. adjl posted... It's also not unreasonable for that destination country to take steps to ensure that those immigrants aren't going to be harmful. Oh so we agree. adjl posted... It is, however, unreasonable for the destination country to fabricate a migrant crisis by closing legal border crossings then commit flagrant human rights violations that they try to justify by citing said migrant crisis. lol "fabricate" the drugs crossing to such a degree that users were wide spread enough to get their drug decriminalised. Also, citations please. I'm sure people would entertain your point if you could prove the US blocked legal immigration. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:904130910] in I didn't k... [t:76735233]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>I'd love to hear why you think that's comparable. With numbers. Good luck.</quote> https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/acid-attack-violence-in-london-soars-by-more-than-78-per-cent-a3736516.html https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/01/22/americas/mexico-murders-2017/index.html 78% increase vs 23% increase, London is getting worse quicker so my concern in my country grows quicker than Mexico's. (Note: I am not claiming London is in a worse condition, only that the situation is worsening quicker). <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>You're very much fixating on a different issue to avoid admitting that you said something stupid when you said that these people only have themselves to blame for increasing their risk of getting murdered.</quote> Not at all. They still can't justify leaving because their shithole has gained a little more poop recently, they only get to leave when a crisis takes place and they can seek refuge. While they are not to blame for the risk increasing (don't put words in my mouth), they are to blame for not lowering it. <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>You seem to be conflating all of Mexico with the decisions of individual immigrants, and I'm not really sure why. It's really not unreasonable to say "I'm going to die if I stay here, I'm going to go somewhere where I'll have a better chance," even if that other chance also isn't that great. </quote> It's not unreasonable, but by the same token it's not unreasonable to say "They may be at risk of dying if we don't let them in, but if we let them in we may actually endangering our own so we best not let them in.". It's also not unreasonable for them to say "I'm probably going to die if I stay here, but I'm going to fight the cartel with my suffering neighbours to chase a better chance for my kids," even if that chance also isn't that great. <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>It's also not unreasonable for that destination country to take steps to ensure that those immigrants aren't going to be harmful.</quote> Oh so we agree. <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>It is, however, unreasonable for the destination country to fabricate a migrant crisis by closing legal border crossings then commit flagrant human rights violations that they try to justify by citing said migrant crisis.</quote> lol "fabricate" the drugs crossing to such a degree that users were wide spread enough to get their drug decriminalised. Also, citations please. I'm sure people would entertain your point if you could prove the US blocked legal immigration. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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