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Topic	Who created this "toxic masculinity" narrative?
wah_wah_wah 04/29/18 8:50:16 AM #115:	IloveJesus posted... wah_wah_wah posted... NonDairyMiltank posted... it's BOTH men and women contributing to the market value of certain masculine traits in boys/men and aggressively/passive aggressively pressuring them to conform for perceived benefits even if that means potential for douchey behavior as collateral damage By and large other men. I don't think a woman came up with any of the definitions of "soyboy' on Urban Dictionary. I don't doubt that men have a huge influence, but women have influence in other ways, particularly given that one of the traits that men are supposed to have (according to society at large) is being able to win the approval of women. Your entire theory is premised on the idea that men really want women that are pressuring them to be someone they are not. Maybe its not necessarily that youre feminine, but youre a coward that has no sense of identity. Women will like guys who show more feminine traits - they are not a monolith of desires. Men and women generally dislike cowards that bend to pressure. Cowardice is not a gender-exclusive character trait. <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:900503968] in Who create... [t:76560625]...</cite> <quote><cite>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NonDairyMiltank posted...</cite> <quote>it's BOTH men and women contributing to the market value of certain masculine traits in boys/men and aggressively/passive aggressively pressuring them to conform for perceived benefits even if that means potential for douchey behavior as collateral damage </quote> By and large other men. I don't think a woman came up with any of the definitions of "soyboy' on Urban Dictionary.</quote> I don't doubt that men have a huge influence, but women have influence in other ways, particularly given that one of the traits that men are supposed to have (according to society at large) is being able to win the approval of women.</quote> Your entire theory is premised on the idea that men really want women that are pressuring them to be someone they are not. Maybe its not necessarily that youre feminine, but youre a coward that has no sense of identity. Women will like guys who show more feminine traits - they are not a monolith of desires. Men and women generally dislike cowards that bend to pressure. Cowardice is not a gender-exclusive character trait.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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