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Topic	Who created this "toxic masculinity" narrative?
NonDairyMiltank 04/29/18 8:35:17 AM #112:	wah_wah_wah posted... The23rdMagus posted... Howl posted... Nobody wants men to be like that, feminists don't either and men who are like that are utterly despised by women. I mean, I'm not really one for board shorts, but I'm discovering that Toms are comfy, brunch is worth getting up for, classic lit is interesting, and acknowledging my emotions isn't a bad thing. Toxic masculinity is the insistence that these things are inherently bad and "wrong" for a man to be, because they are typically "feminine". And it's not even women that want men to be a certain way. It's other men. He's basically denying himself all of this because of a box some other dude created for him. To all those who think all women want stoic lumberjacks who never shave and always leave the toilet seat up, David Bowie. Enough said. it's BOTH men and women contributing to the market value of certain masculine traits in boys/men and aggressively/passive aggressively pressuring them to conform for perceived benefits even if that means potential for douchey behavior as collateral damage one of the reasons feminism exists is because behaviors of men can have an impact on how female society operates surprise surprise, the behaviors of women can also impact male society and influence the future actions of men in multiple ways including negatively i laugh whenever anyone bothers implying that trends of toxic masculinity is only sourced by men when there's thousands of tiger moms in the world crackin the whip on their sons to be ideal successful cutthroat grandbaby producing machines that can be bragged about at book clubs.... fuck ive been to campus feminist events focusing on toxic masculinity and its the intelligent presenters who bother to bring up somewhere in their material that hey "btw ladies, its not just men causing this issue, sometimes we as women add to it too, lets work on changing that as well" feminists with brains realize that most men can't fix that problem on their own vulnerable boys and men are swimmin in the dirty fishtank and its already killin them to change the water they need help from outside too --- le Moo <cite>NonDairyMiltank posted [p:900503649] in Who create... [t:76560625]...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The23rdMagus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody wants men to be like that, feminists don't either and men who are like that are utterly despised by women. </quote> I mean, I'm not really one for board shorts, but I'm discovering that Toms are comfy, brunch is worth getting up for, classic lit is interesting, and acknowledging my emotions isn't a bad thing. Toxic masculinity is the insistence that these things are inherently bad and "wrong" for a man to be, because they are typically "feminine".</quote> And it's not even women that want men to be a certain way. It's other men. He's basically denying himself all of this because of a box some other dude created for him. To all those who think all women want stoic lumberjacks who never shave and always leave the toilet seat up, David Bowie. Enough said.</quote> it's BOTH men and women contributing to the market value of certain masculine traits in boys/men and aggressively/passive aggressively pressuring them to conform for perceived benefits even if that means potential for douchey behavior as collateral damage one of the reasons feminism exists is because behaviors of men can have an impact on how female society operates surprise surprise, the behaviors of women can also impact male society and influence the future actions of men in multiple ways including negatively i laugh whenever anyone bothers implying that trends of toxic masculinity is only sourced by men when there's thousands of tiger moms in the world crackin the whip on their sons to be ideal successful cutthroat grandbaby producing machines that can be bragged about at book clubs.... fuck ive been to campus feminist events focusing on toxic masculinity and its the intelligent presenters who bother to bring up somewhere in their material that hey "btw ladies, its not just men causing this issue, sometimes we as women add to it too, lets work on changing that as well" feminists with brains realize that most men can't fix that problem on their own vulnerable boys and men are swimmin in the dirty fishtank and its already killin them to change the water they need help from outside too --- le Moo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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