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Darker Cheshire posted...

The Admiral posted...

Villain posted...

Americans killed by the Alt Right/Nazis in 2017:

So 0.058% of the murders in the U.S.? Is that the point you're trying to make? More people are killed in gang violence each day.

CrimsonRage posted...

No, see, conservative victimhood is different because.....

Nah, you don't get to have it both ways. If liberals are going to endlessly scream that anyone who supports Trump is a white supremacist or alt-right, people are going to read into signs like this as being typical sour grapes over Trump. Don't like being called on it, don't use such melodramatic rhetoric all the time.

So despite a noted uptick in violent crimes related to white supremacy, it's not worth looking into because it's a small portion of overall violent crimes? Can one ignore that it is, in ways, tied to the current politic climate along with the efforts of Richard Spencer and other noted white nationalists?

But I suppose you're right. You can't have it both ways. You can't simultaneously say you're for racial profiling and say you're not racist.

Any "uptick" based on such a small sample is insignificant. It could just be random fluctuation that one often sees with rare events.

In fact, four of the murderers on that list were not even motivated by any alt-right ideology. That would be the Portland killer, Jeremy Christian, who called Trump supporters, "perckerwood hillbilly rednecks pretending they ain't racist". He hated all organized religion, including Christianity, because they "killed his Pagan ancestors". His hate for Islam stemmed from a different belief system (not the alt-right's "Muslims are all terrorists and a threat to Western civilization" rhetoric). The New Mexico school shooter, who killed for reasons not related to any alt-right beliefs. The murderer of Officer Parrish, who was just mental.

"Villian" is padding the numbers by including any high profile murder case where the perp had expressed support for alt-right ideology on social media, disregarding the fact that their crimes were not directly related to these beliefs.

One could also say there was an "uptick" in "alt-left" murders last year (if you compared the number to the year before).

You had the Kansas City serial killer who murdered two people.

You had the Fresno shooter who killed three.

You had the murder of Jamie Urton.

One could also pad this number by including the two cop killers who had left anti-cop and anti-white statements on social media before committing their crimes (though these killings were motivated by the suspects's desire to evade arrest for other crimes).