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Topic	Looked at the CDC reports for deaths for black males >_>
AdviceMan 01/16/18 12:43:04 PM #59:	r4X0r posted... And that's the problem- explaining why something happens using statistics from the Department of Justice is considered "racist trolling?" Can't have intelligent adult conversations when half the people are looking to call anyone they disagree with a racist troll. You seem to be upset over something that happened in the past. I don't have context for this, so I don't can't really speak to it, however, I would wager a guess that it had something to do with the amount of African americans incarcerated or gunned down, and your response was statistics that have to do with black people and violent crimes. Before I have continue, I will have to say, I generally agree with you if this is your point, and your point is valid that policing is in part influenced by the communities that they are around. I'm a firm believer that this is a generally useless conversation to have. As a black person I have experienced racism first hand, thus, I understand how it feels to be stopped while not doing anything wrong and be questioned and humiliated in front of my friends for no other reason that fitting the description of "a black person". There is no comfort whatsoever to this humiliation in "Well, black people DO cause a lot of violence disproportionate to their population size". This seems to imply that I somehow DESERVE to be profiled as a matter of pragmatism. Nobody ever applies this to men in general. Men commit much more violence disproportionate to their population, but nobody but the most ardent feminist would argue that men deserve to be feared as a matter of pragmatism. If I'm off the mark, let me know, but you have to understand where this response to your comments come from. There is no perfectly legitimate reason for discrimination or racism. There may be understandable ones, and there may be frames of context in which you have to understand them, but all in all, it often seems that people are basically arguing that it is okay to judge people based on the color of their skin provided that enough people with that skin color cause trouble. --- "I'm not racist but, BLM sure did make me racist." -Skasa I'm just here to offer you advice, take it or leave it. <cite>AdviceMan posted [p:894166420] in Looked at ... [t:76205245]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>And that's the problem- explaining why something happens using statistics from the Department of Justice is considered "racist trolling?" Can't have intelligent adult conversations when half the people are looking to call anyone they disagree with a racist troll.</quote> You seem to be upset over something that happened in the past. I don't have context for this, so I don't can't really speak to it, however, I would wager a guess that it had something to do with the amount of African americans incarcerated or gunned down, and your response was statistics that have to do with black people and violent crimes. Before I have continue, I will have to say, I generally agree with you if this is your point, and your point is valid that policing is in part influenced by the communities that they are around. I'm a firm believer that this is a generally useless conversation to have. As a black person I have experienced racism first hand, thus, I understand how it feels to be stopped while not doing anything wrong and be questioned and humiliated in front of my friends for no other reason that fitting the description of "a black person". There is no comfort whatsoever to this humiliation in "Well, black people DO cause a lot of violence disproportionate to their population size". This seems to imply that I somehow DESERVE to be profiled as a matter of pragmatism. Nobody ever applies this to men in general. Men commit much more violence disproportionate to their population, but nobody but the most ardent feminist would argue that men deserve to be feared as a matter of pragmatism. If I'm off the mark, let me know, but you have to understand where this response to your comments come from. There is no perfectly legitimate reason for discrimination or racism. There may be understandable ones, and there may be frames of context in which you have to understand them, but all in all, it often seems that people are basically arguing that it is okay to judge people based on the color of their skin provided that enough people with that skin color cause trouble. --- "I'm not racist but, BLM sure did make me racist." -Skasa I'm just here to offer you advice, take it or leave it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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