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TopicDid anyone see the full video of the Daniel Shaver killing.
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12/08/17 6:58:29 PM
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Keith_Valentine posted...
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Keith_Valentine posted...
As a cop, you are trained to use critical analysis. Not just your gun. Overweight sobbing kid. Why did he need to crawl? Why didn't they just order him lying facedown, arms and legs spread? Then secure him that way.

If they keep letting these cops off, they will keep killing people. It has to stop. This is voluntary manslaughter, I don't care what excuse they use. He should serve prison time.


I already explained possible justification for having him crawl. I can repost it if youd like.


I don't need your explanation. I'm telling you.


"I have already decided to be outraged because the media tells me I should be, so I refuse to apply any critical thought or look at the scenario objectively."

Thanks for saving me the trouble.


No, I will answer you seriously.

We've been in dangerous situations. This guy is a cop , he is trained to be in dangerous situations. It's part of the job of enforcing the law.

I've seen some shit, dealt with plenty of cops. I get the threat of a weapon . This cop is screaming at this kid 'I will kill you'. Right off the bat that's wrong. You don't get to threaten to kill people. You WARN them that you will use force and shoot if t hey take any aggressive action.

You order them facedown, arms and legs spread wide. His partner was there securing the target. Approach and secure his hands and feet. There were no other threats.

Now the analysis. This perp is sobbing and scared, because the cop is telling him he will kill him. Extremely unprofessional. Then he kills the guy on top of it while he's drunkenly crawling at him.

Not ok, totally unacceptable behavior from an officer. He needs to be punished as an example that you can't get trigger happy everytime you're scared. He deserves prison time for how badly he fucked that up.


I agree with unprofessionalism. But that isn't illegal and it isn't murder.

Did there happen to be no other second party? Yes.

But the guy was seen in his room with someone else with a visible rifle.

As an officer, I (and you as well) would want this guy away from his room that can be reasonably suspected, given the reports, to contain another armed individual.
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