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TopicI don't agree with the kneeling during the anthem, but after Trump's comment...
darkjedilink
09/23/17 2:43:16 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
darkjedilink posted...
VipaGTS posted...
darkjedilink posted...
But no, we can't talk about that, because actually fixing the problem takes away from the victim narrative.

Both things can't be problems? this is an example of exactly what i just said...your narrative is "black people do more crime therefore that's the only issue...FIX IT"....People already admit that, yes, even black people...They are trying to fix the problem. There are programs in inner-cities that are prone to gang violence hoping to stop kids from following that path. there are programs to help those kids go to school, etc...what else can be done? Telling the gang members "bad gang member! thats a bad gang member!" and hoping they stop?

so yes, people on that side are already looking at ways to stop that...now why don't you want to have a discussion about the police and how they aren't perfect? you disagree with Collins use of the word "black" and immediately shut him down instead of trying to have a conversation about the police as a whole....and then cry about his protest "doing nothing"...you are contributing to it doing nothing.

Tell me why that cop killing Micheal Brown was a problem. Tell me why that cop killing Alton Sterling was a problem. Tell me why Freddie Gray's death was a problem.

Then, tell me why they were in the situation they were in to have a cop kill them. Oh, wait - you don't have to. Micheal Brown robbed a convenience store, beat the shit out of the owner, and then attacked a police officer. Alton Sterling raped people, and was carrying around a firearm he wasn't legally allowed to due to his felony rape convictions. He then tried to pull it on police, after repeatedly being told not to move. Freddie Gray was arrested, in transport, and instead of just sitting down, decided to get up, and resisted the police officers' attempts to seat him, when he ended up breaking his own neck based on his stupidity.

You want to talk about police abuse? Yeah, let's talk about police abuse. Philando Castille was a travesty of justice from beginning to end. However, that's not what they're kneeling about. They're kneeling over the criminals cops killed - two in self-defense. One of the protesters recently cried "POLICE BRUTALITY!!!" after being handcuffed. Just handcuffed.

The vast majority of the "abuse" allegations would never exist had the crimes that caused the police interaction not happened in the first place. By taking the argument AWAY from the criminal and putting it on law enforcement, you're basically saying that you care more for criminals than society.

Where did they players say they're weren't kneeling Philando?

The kneeling started before his death. If you want to argue that it's another one on the pile, fine - they're still kneeling for the idea that a police officer who shoots a violent criminal to death in self-defense is wrong if and only if the violent criminal happens to have a dark skin tone.
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