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Topic	Nazi in Seattle threw banana at passerby
Dragonblade01 09/19/17 8:10:51 AM #20:	Kineth posted... Dragonblade01 posted... Most people who don't agree with outright punching nazis are actually saying that they don't agree with punching people simply for their thoughts/ideas. The people in this group that overlap with the people who think that think shouting racial epithets at someone is not antagonizing and/or likely to cause someone to want to punch you are people who endorse terrorism, bullying and verbal abuse. The idea that people who don't have a problem with a Nazi or hatemongerer being punched also think it's ok in every other situation is also simply a false characterization. So my point is that those people are generally full of shit and hiding behind whatever ulterior motive they have. Or they're just naive. You're making a lot of assumptions from their stance simply because they also extend that same position to nazis just as they would to any other ideology. Saying that it's not okay to punch someone for their ideas is not the same as not expecting someone's ideas to make others angry. Saying it's not okay to punch people for their ideas is not the same as endorsing terrorism, bullying, and verbal abuse. And that stance says nothing about how other people view randomly punching people, so how others apply a "no punching rule" is neither here no there. Likewise, saying you shouldn't punch people for holding ideas isn't the same as saying you shouldn't be able to defend yourself. --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:886877844] in Nazi in Se... [t:75790959]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>Most people who don't agree with outright punching nazis are actually saying that they don't agree with punching people simply for their thoughts/ideas.</quote> The people in this group that overlap with the people who think that think shouting racial epithets at someone is not antagonizing and/or likely to cause someone to want to punch you are people who endorse terrorism, bullying and verbal abuse. The idea that people who don't have a problem with a Nazi or hatemongerer being punched also think it's ok in every other situation is also simply a false characterization. So my point is that those people are generally full of shit and hiding behind whatever ulterior motive they have. Or they're just naive.</quote> You're making a lot of assumptions from their stance simply because they also extend that same position to nazis just as they would to any other ideology. Saying that it's not okay to punch someone for their ideas is not the same as not expecting someone's ideas to make others angry. Saying it's not okay to punch people for their ideas is not the same as endorsing terrorism, bullying, and verbal abuse. And that stance says nothing about how other people view randomly punching people, so how others apply a "no punching rule" is neither here no there. Likewise, saying you shouldn't punch people for holding ideas isn't the same as saying you shouldn't be able to defend yourself. --- PSN: kazukifafner</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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