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TopicDo you have any opinions on the Touhou games?
GiftedACIII
11/22/23 5:21:19 AM
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Zwijn posted...
I think it would be pretty easy actually, holding a shoulder button for the minute movements would feel ok. Ikaruga and so on worked for me just fine too.

Interesting. I've never tried a shmup on an analog stick now that I think about it. It's always been either a keyboard or a d-pad. I'll have to try it sometime.
ViewtifulJoe posted...
Ah. I thought I was seeing an unusual amount of videos with reupload in the description.
dBu was pretty good. Consistent/reliable are about what I'd call them too, almost every song gets a cover, nothing about the arrangement gets too crazy.
I really liked Iron Attack/Crow's Claw. Demetori was heavier than both but the way they'd rearrange songs was kind of hit or miss for me.
There's some good Eurobeat too.

Yep, although I heard even reupload channels were getting taken down at the start of this year.
Same, I generally covers that don't stray from the original too much. That's why I generally follow more amateur youtubers too, 3 ones I frequented are RichaadEB, falkkone, and Gametal. Demetori is another name I recall seeing a lot. Didn't they actually do a track in one of the fighting games? 14.5 and 15.5 were cool for how they utilized covers by different circles.

ViewtifulJoe posted...
That really didn't come up much, the only time I'd really want to target something very specific is in 12 where you're trying to destroy a UFO quickly while a bunch of other stuff's on screen because you're counting on the screen wipe when it explodes to buy you some space.
The Reimu-Suika shot in 11 kind of had this covered. They generally always go forward and the homing can only drive them partially to the left or right.
I'm still never gonna complain about the homing shots being able to go sideways or backwards when an extra stage is flooding the screen with weak enemies though.

The one I know off the top of my head is one of Sagume's spell cards in 15 where she sends a bunch of destroyable yellow meteors at you. Reimu's is ridiculously hard due to how her homing amulets go wild everywhere and it's so hard it's sometimes just easier to time out the spell by dodging the meteors while every other character can just shotgun in front of Sagume and capture the card relatively easily. The funny thing is that Sanae's also home in that game but her bullets are just super strong and she has the best shot type if it wasn't for Reisen's bomb giving you 3 extra lives with each bomb.

ViewtifulJoe posted...
I don't know what to think of Touhou games having canon routes. I'm a fan of the ZUN watching from a distance through a pair of binoculars going "I'm not entirely sure what's happening." approach.

All the routes in SWR are canon, it's just that hers happens last because she's the last unlockable character and her route references the other routes.

When it comes to the other games it's implied that all the routes are canon too due to how they reference all the characters having gone through them. Apparently some games do have a definitive "resolver" (usually Reimu) though and some characters apparently meet the other characters for the first time elsewhere.

ViewtifulJoe posted...
Hmm, let's see.
EOSD Stage 5 > Boss 5
PCB Stage 5 > Boss 5
IN Stage 5 > Boss 5
MOF Stage 5 << Boss 5
SA Stage 5 > Boss 5
UFO could go either way.
TD can't remember either
DDC Stage 5 < Boss 5
Huh.

I actually like Luna Dial much more than Pocketwatch. Might be a hot take but I personally think Pocketwatch is one of the weakest stage 5 themes and weaker than even the stage 1 and 2 themes while I find Luna Dial very underrated and better than the famous Flowering Night.
Agreed with Youmu.
I can go either way since I really like Reisen's theme but Cinderella Cage is pretty good too.
I can go either way with MoF too.
Agree with SA.
UFO stage 5 >>>> boss for me. It's actually one of the perfect examples where I think the stage theme, Makai city is one of the best stage themes in the game while I find the boss theme very weak, I think Shou's theme is actually the weakest boss theme in UFO.

Same with TD. Not a fan of Omiwa Legend but Holy Mausoleum is one of the best tracks in TD.

DDC is another one where both stage and boss themes are great. Reverse Idealogy is a top tier Touhou theme but the Shining Needle Castle is also a top tier stage theme.

Anyway, I looked up one of my UFO extra runs and it turns I've actually captured her last card once. I've forgotten I've found her so easy I nearly NMNB'd her. Unidentified "Rainbow UFO Invasion of Terror" is the one spell card I really had trouble with her. She's a lot easier than Byakuren where even with 4 extra lives I struggled with her.

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