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TopicIsrael upset after UN chief said Hamas massacre 'didn't happen in a vacuum'
Foppe
10/25/23 10:59:38 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
True, but also nobody every says " Y happened because of Z". It's always "hamas has no choice" but also "all of Israel's actions are completely contextless and driven entirely by evil". Let's ignore that Hamas was elected by the people of Gaza. Let's ignore that they only had elections in the first place because Israel gave up control of the region to make peace with Egypt. Let's ignore that they only had control of the region because they took it to defend against an invasion FROM egypt. Let's ignore that prior to said invasion gaza was controlled by Egypt. Let's ignore that before then gaza was part of an even earlier invasion to wipe Israel out the day they were founded. Let's ignore that data before that Palestine could have been a country but the people rejected the deal because they didn't want to live near Jews.

Let's ignore that hamas has been smuggling weapons and stealing aid for decades while the international community does nothing to stop them. That they fire them from schools and hospitals intentionally and the world lets them. That they've been allowed to fester while surrounding countries demand Israel do more for the people who elected them as they fire rockets into neighborhoods. If only Israel could make peace with people who had in their charter the goal of the global eradication of the Jews. If only other countries gave a shit and tried to stop them.

Wouldn't that also force Israel's hand?
Are we ignoring that Muslims and Jews lived side by side for generations in the region, most of the time in peace?
How they were not against Jews per se, just against how the West had whispered promises about creating their own countries that they would decide over, just to have them start talking about giving it to somebody else?
Are we ignoring that they have played But the other side did... for generations?

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