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GeraldDarko posted...

I'll ask to answer more directly, which freedoms have you lost? You gave me your thoughts on woke culture, some of which I agree with, but nothing you said described and impingement on your freedoms.

I suppose to answer your question super precisely it would depend on how you would define "freedoms". If your question is "has an element of the state/law enforcement fined or imprisoned you due to wokeness?". I think you know that basically everybody's answer is going to be no. But by virtue of how self-evident that is, I didn't think that was the question you were asking.

So I can refine my answer if you give some examples of freedoms that would count towards what you were asking. So yeah, let me know what would count and I can alter my response accordingly.

For me at the time, I was answering based on a definition of freedom which includes freedom of speech as a principle, and in my idea of that principle, respectful civil good faith discussion of people from opposing viewpoints without fears of doxxing, deplatforming, or career sabotage are part of that conception of that "freedom". And bad financial incentives of social media, bad faith grifters. political actors, opportunists, diversionary tactics, and yes, the shallow tenants of wokeness and how it is practiced all combine together and do indeed hinder that freedom as I see it.

I think if almost anybody is honest with themself they would admit that they felt much more free to be honest about their opinion and have calm civil good faith disagreements with people without fear in 2010 than they do now. And if you agree to that premise then I think you are cosigning the idea that yes the freedom of free-speech has been somewhat curtailed. And IMO I think it's pretty apparent that "wokeness" played a part in that. (provided you and I share a sufficiently similar definition of the term.)