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Topic	Police in Ohio fatally shot a pregnant shoplifting suspect
DnDer 08/29/23 10:09:33 PM #211:	Slayer_22 posted... Let's say she did get away, the cop gets hit and injured...it's fine, because she was attempting to escape? Cops get paid to that that risk. The other people in the parking lot that might be caught in a crossfire didn't. It's much better to let a suspect (especially one for a non-violent crime like shoplifting) leave the premises and then arrest them during a much safer window in a much less dangerous place. andel posted... your rationale is the same one people used to try and defend the people that run over protestors. "they just want to get away" is never a valid reason to try and run people over. Bad analogy? Protestors aren't usually pointing guns and threatening a driver's life. Most of the people who talk about running protestors over want to run protestors over, and like to use their protest or political position as an excuse to do it. I don't think that's comparable at all to cops threatening to kill you for shoplifting. Slayer_22 posted... This woman was willing to attempt murder to get away from the police. You sure have a funny way of describing "panicked flight response" to people threatening to kill her for shopllifting. Sega9599 posted... They're state sanctioned executioners and are immune from prosecution. Well... at least this part of your statement was largely true. Sega9599 posted... The police could have done more to help reach that positive outcome, therefore they are the bad guys because they didn't. YES. Naysaspace posted... Topic title makes it seem they shot her for shoplifting. They did, though. They entire point of their presence was to stop a shoplifter. They terrified her to the point of trying to flee, and then shot her for it. SwayM posted... This has absolutely nothing to do with race. Policing, and their response to alleged criminal activities (and actual criminal activities), is so inextricably tied to race that it's amazing to imagine you saying that with a straight face. Policing in our country exists because of race--one of the first groups of cops the US had was armed slave patrols. And it gets shittier from there because so little has changed other than the technology we use for policing. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:975742539] in Police in ... [t:80549719]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite><quote>Let's say she did get away, the cop gets hit and injured...it's fine, because she was attempting to escape?</quote>Cops get paid to that that risk. The other people in the parking lot that might be caught in a crossfire didn't. It's much better to let a suspect (especially one for a non-violent crime like shoplifting) leave the premises and then arrest them during a much safer window in a much less dangerous place.andel posted... </cite><quote>your rationale is the same one people used to try and defend the people that run over protestors. "they just want to get away" is never a valid reason to try and run people over.</quote>Bad analogy? Protestors aren't usually pointing guns and threatening a driver's life. Most of the people who talk about running protestors over want to run protestors over, and like to use their protest or political position as an excuse to do it.I don't think that's comparable at all to cops threatening to kill you for shoplifting.Slayer_22 posted... </cite><quote>This woman was willing to attempt murder to get away from the police.</quote>You sure have a funny way of describing "panicked flight response" to people threatening to kill her for shopllifting.Sega9599 posted... </cite><quote>They're state sanctioned executioners and are immune from prosecution.</quote>Well... at least this part of your statement was largely true.Sega9599 posted... </cite><quote>The police could have done more to help reach that positive outcome, therefore they are the bad guys because they didn't.</quote>YES.Naysaspace posted... </cite><quote>Topic title makes it seem they shot her for shoplifting.</quote>They did, though. They entire point of their presence was to stop a shoplifter. They terrified her to the point of trying to flee, and then shot her for it.SwayM posted... </cite><quote>This has absolutely nothing to do with race.</quote>Policing, and their response to alleged criminal activities (and actual criminal activities), is so inextricably tied to race that it's amazing to imagine you saying that with a straight face. Policing in our country exists because of race--one of the first groups of cops the US had was armed slave patrols. And it gets shittier from there because so little has changed other than the technology we use for policing. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain AfroheadSubject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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