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TopicThe Shadowlord is such a well written villain. *NIER SPOILERS*
Slayer_22
08/27/23 9:58:43 PM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
I still feel like the "You killed them with no provocation!" Thing rings kinda hollow when you literally had no other option to progress.

I know there's the "Turn off the game" argument but this ain't no Spec Ops.

Games that try to make you feel guilty for things the game forced you to do always rang a bit hollow to me. I mean the Robot Boss monster might be the worst example of that.

I feel like I'm sounding overly negative. I really liked Nier. I just feel that's kind of a lazy trope if there's no alternative.

Look at the effort Toby Fox went to avoid that trope in Undertale
Well, the thing is, it's not YOU specifically. It's Nier. I mean, during the 5 year timeskip, he's murdered countless Shades. Even before the game, he's killed them. The game is just sprinkling in easter eggs and the like. It's not like you're actually Nier lol. It's a story, and the story is using the idea of murdering monsters to push forward a point.

The point of the story isn't 'you're a monster'. A lot of what Nier does is specifically for his and Yonah's sake. He justifies his bloodlust multiple times during the game. The game goes to great lengths to basically say no one is right. No one is innocent. Even Gestalt Yonah doesn't want to be in Replicant Yonah's body. No one really wins. Everyone is doomed. Everyone will die.

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