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KI_Simpson posted...

Saying which pronouns to use doesn't out someone and will come up regardless of email headings, stop fucking missing the point on purpose and misrepresenting what I said.

It doesn't always come up. This forces it to come up, which is wrong.

loafy013 posted...

Whats the difference between somebody putting he/him in an email, and wanting coworkers to refer to them as him? It would only be outing them if the written and verbal didn't match.

There's a massive difference between actively signing every email with a lie and neglecting to correct coworkers that assume you're one gender or another.

RuneterranSnap posted...

Many companies request pronouns and they absolutely can require it.

But they absolutely should not, due to the immense potential harm.

Lillymon posted...

You're definitely focusing on the wrong thing here. One more little lie on top of a whole life of lies is seriously not that big a deal. The more welcoming environment of everyone stating their pronouns is the much greater good and not worth sacrificing for this.

It absolutely is a huge deal to a great many people. Anecdotally, I know many non binary people that very rarely correct others, even those that know their preferred pronouns but slip. Because bringing attention to it, even in such cases, makes the hurt worse.

I'm all for inclusion. It's important to try to create more welcoming work environments. I think having an option to display pronouns is a great idea. I think encouraging people to use this option is the right thing to do. That can gradually erode prejudices. It can make people more comfortable using other pronouns, and make it easier to do so instinctually. But forcing people to use it doesn't speed up that process. It hurts people now. It can delay people coming out, it can make people walk on eggshells to slow down the process of normalizing it.

Providing the option and encouraging it is good. Forcing it is bad. And the bigots will hate the first option just as much.