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ReturnOfFa posted...

it aligns with it quite nicely. there may be minor discrepancies between those positions, but they still align in how the present in the media. I also haven't heard a rational argument against mandates that don't rely on anti-vaccine dogma.

In my experience, anti-mandate folks tend to fall under one or more of the following umbrellas:

• Libertarians who don't want government imposing any sort of requirement on people under any circumstances (which obviously doesn't work well for public health)
• Covid deniers that refuse to believe the worst public health crisis in a century is bad enough to warrant any interventions beyond what people choose to do for themselves
• People somewhere on the anti-vaxx spectrum, including quite a few that are willing to accept that more established vaccines are probably okay, but have bought into the fearmongering around how the Covid ones are "rushed" or "untested"

I haven't seen many exceptions to this, but there are indeed a few people who oppose mandates that aren't actually anti-vaxx. They're equally mistaken about what constitutes sensible public health policy and are often influenced by the anti-vaxx fear, but that's still secondary to their main concerns.

Fingerpuppet posted...

claiming a source is bad is not an argument.

Sure it is. There's some nuance to that and it's usually more productive to say why a source is bad, especially when dealing with somebody who just doesn't understand and needs it spelled out for them, but if the source used to reach a conclusion doesn't actually constitute a valid basis for that conclusion, pointing that out is no different than pointing out any other flawed logical process in forming an argument.

Fingerpuppet posted...

Your belief is that if you don't like where something comes from, then the information must be wrong.

Where did you get that? All he said was that VAERS isn't a valid basis for forming conclusions about vaccine safety. That's a true statement, not him saying that the information is wrong because he doesn't like it.