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Kirby321 posted...

What is there to engage with Ulti? I literally called him out for not engaging with anyone unless he's defending himself. He's otherwise in his own world and calling people scum and town left and right without much explanation.

Could you summarize why Ulti thinks Sultan is scum, for instance?

Han is finding plenty to engage with at the moment.

I'm not sure why I have to summarize Ulti's thoughts on a player for you, when they're literally right there for you to read if you were willing to engage with them. Ulti at latest said that Sultan had bad posts in Topic 1 and then is acting too scared and concerned with how his actions are perceived. Who else has called out Sultan for being too concerned with his image, instead of players just going , "oh Sultan, silly guy not remembering what he's already replied to!"

Kirby321 posted...

I hate that I have to reexplain this, but I literally had the same argument as you, Ulti. And we discussed that thoroughly. If you're town, Ulti, you'd do us all a favor and get on the same page.

If you still think Plum is scum after reviewing the discussion between Peaf, Han, and I, then fine. Fair enough. But until then, I implore you to just fully catch up.

Like, I'm struggling to understand from a town perspective, why you would be UPSET that a player is coming to the same conclusions as you independently. If he ends up changing his mind once he catches up, great, but it would ostensibly show that he was looking at things from a town perspective as he analyzed, wouldn't it? Especially considering:

Kirby321 posted...

That being said, my intent is not to say Ulti is scum.

Then why discredit? I feel it is ironic here that I want to also caveat that my intent is not to say Ulti is town here. I am not defending his takes, I'm finding issue with you seeming to actively discredit his catch-up. I think Lopen said it last game. Town doesn't seek to discredit players, they seek to correct player's misinformation. Scum seeks to discredit players when they can't argue with the information.