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Dels posted...

That's exactly the point though. If a person's necessities are taken care of, what exactly are they missing out on if they make the "lazy" choice? If you need to put in effort to survive and you don't, you're "lazy" but actually there's something off with your survival instincts which is a sign of something deeper. If you don't need to put in the effort to survive, then it's only natural that of course you wouldn't make a choice that takes effort just for the sake of doing what other people consider effortful/productive when it doesn't get you anything. Is the child of rich parents "lazy" if they stay home all day, compared to the person who needs to go get a job?

But then beyond basic necessities, there's also other things on that human pyramid of needs. I'm not a psychologist but I'd guess that if a person is at, like, healthy mental health and has been raised in a loving environment and etc then they will usually naturally have some goals they want to achieve and that putting in effort to achieve them will come to them sort of naturally. Maybe that's not the case and some people are just innately "lazy" to the point where even if they were raised perfectly in a good environment they'd still just choose to do nothing? That's the debate of the thread I guess (thanks crazyisgood, great topic) but it's a valid debate, not just "lol nah some people are just lazy"

Now this is actually an interesting argument! But...sadly it just boils down to semantics. Yes, I would call them lazy if they, say, spend their time absorbing entertainment all day. I went part time for a while when I made a bunch of money in the stock market and spent a ton of time playing games all day! Especially when I was injured for two months and couldn't go to the gym. I would call that laziness. Video games are a fucking phenomenal art form and sitting around playing them all day is good shit. Again... I'm not making a value judgement when I call people lazy. Technology has evolved to the point where in my ideal society, everyone could have the right to be lazy if they so wanted.

If the thrust of the argument is are people inherently lazy, then perhaps not (man I've just had some roommates that still make me think it is for some people though). Maybe it's a choice. But if it's a choice made for such a long time, you are now a lazy person. Just like if you're mean all the time, you're now an asshole congrats