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TopicI went through all of 2020 through 2022 without catching corona. No vax either.
adjl
01/10/23 3:23:11 PM
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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...
Have you not heard about the myocarditis/pericarditis cases cropping up, particularly from the Moderna vaccine?

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788346

Those who have argue "Well, it's very rare." But "very rare" doesn't mean "Won't ever happen." Because it clearly happened to those people. I don't want myocarditis. I'm trying to make choices that will keep myocarditis out of my way.

And how many deaths have been reported (credibly, not on OpenVAERS, since I could go on OpenVAERS right now and say that I grew extra penises out of my ears after being vaccinated) as being correlated with those cases of myo(peri)carditis? And of those correlated deaths, how many are believed to have been causally linked?

Yes, myocarditis is a potential side effect of the mRNA vaccines, especially in younger males (for reasons that are yet unknown). Nobody's really disputing that. Attributing deaths to that side effect, however, is just not true. The myocarditis cases in question are easily treatable and cause no lasting harm.

On the other hand, there have indeed been deaths associated with blood clots from the A-Z and Janssen vaccines (particularly younger women), as I mentioned earlier. Nevertheless, that risk is lower than the risk of dying of blood clots from Covid itself, even without considering the option of getting an mRNA vaccine instead.

ItsKaljinyuTime posted...
But what you should be able to do is look at that person who died of a particular strain and answer why. Or catch them before they die and figure out why they're having such a bad reaction to it.

Why should you be able to do that? What precedent is there for that being possible with any disease, let alone a brand new one? Do you have any idea how short three years actually is in the grand scheme of scientific research?

The medical community is trying to pin down risk factors, but that's a very, very complicated analysis due to just how many different variables there are. Even once a risk factor is identified (and many have been), studying it well enough to fully understand the mechanism behind it takes a very long time and is very challenging, especially where we don't have the option of actually experimenting on people by infecting them with the disease in a controlled trial (because that would be mean). Those analyses are ongoing around the world, but there's no reason to ever expect results as conclusive as you seem to be expecting, let along to expect them so soon.

Quite simply, this is the best science can do. It's always been the best science can do, and in many ways is actually better than usual because those working on this subject have had a much easier time getting funding and public support than those working on lower-profile issues. People are absolutely working on understanding it better, but the information you're asking for will likely never exist. You're just going to have to come to terms with that and accept that that doesn't mean nobody is trying to improve.

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