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Topic"Russia is just defending itself"
scar_the_1
12/29/22 2:30:20 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
the Social Democrats and V were staunchly anti-NATO for even months after the invasion...up until they realised it wasn't politically beneficial.
and as soon as Turkey started to push back they went right back to their "i told you we shouldn't have bid to join it" rhetoric.
when "We will never join NATO as long as i sit on this parliamnent" no longer got them votes, they flipped to "me sitting here is instrumental to the NATO process" and i suspect they're ready to flip again at a moments notice if they think it will benefit them
Yeah. V have been anti NATO the whole time, I don't deny that. S haven't. They've been pushing to join. I'm saying that it's unfair to paint V as pro Russia because of it. Which, again, I think you know.

ROBANN_88 posted...
"SD were the most critical party, while V is the least critical against Russia"
Europaportalen? Votewatch? "Bestmdhet gentemot Ryssland"? What is this? It looks incredibly cherry picked.
I think you're also well aware of SDs close ties with Russia, not just the whole Putilov mess, but also how they've sent election observers etc. Additionally, some of the biggest lobbying firms (e.g., Kreab) were knee deep into the Russian market, but then suddenly everything was forgotten. And there's also the part where Sveriges Hamnar tried to break the blockade that the workers put up against Russian ships. Guess which parties were on which side?

In the end I don't like parliamentary politics much, nor the parties, but you have to do a lot of cherry picking to paint V as the most friendly towards Russia with the ties SD and lobbyists had, and with the way Nringslivet kept pushing for trade despite workers' shows of solidarity.

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