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@CreekCo posted...

No. Read post #13 again. A franchise that has a whole Mara as almost a mascot at this point isnt like that. Just check out the characters and demon designs over the years.

If you're serious. It's tenuous to say it has 'always been there' when the only concrete example is P2, which is largely not even seen as the same series due to changes in direction and core experience. There's little overlap in fans of p1/2 and 3/4/5. As a mainline fan, I know.

3-5 all have scenes that villainize gay or trans people (remember the P3 beach scene where a trans woman with stubble tries to touch the boys?), while almost never having just a positive depiction of lgbt or really even accepting that it's not crass or other-ing to be lgbt.

It's not 'political' to be lgbt, it's just what some people are. A more conservative, anti-gay culture doesn't have less lgbt people. It simply has less people who feel safe to admit their identity.

I dont know what you're talking about with 'virtue signalling' when it's not like modern Persona has positive lgbt depictions that you just have to dig for. It doesn't at all, while it does have prominent segments denigrating them. Do you see any non-negative acknowledgement of lgbt people as virtue signalling?

We can allow or excuse a scene in isolation. Eg the P4G drag show makes queer people the focus of joking and ridicule, but I guess Teddie passes and the audience speaks positively of him. But across the three games there is an unmistakable pattern of lgbt people being the subject of ridicule and alienation. And there is not a pattern of lgbt people being shown dignity and acceptance, or pride in who they are, despite the conceit of the games being helping others find themselves and examine their lives with Social Links.