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TopicYGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 4 - Slyfer no Slyfing
Peace___Frog
10/15/22 1:07:46 PM
#168:


Lets boil the letters down to simple comments.

Peaf Letter 1:
After my review, I felt that changs vote on Sbell was the tipping point and the most important vote, as a result. I wanted to be clear that it was not the vote itself that I was suspicious of, because I voted for the same person not long after. My suspicions came from a place of thinking back to the game where, I think it was Scare as scum, managed a mislynch on D1 from some devious pushing and pulling. I recall that most players didnt come to appreciate this until after the game ended. So I wanted chang, in his own words, to speak to his vote, especially because he did not provide specific reasons in the same post that he voted for Sbell in. He also had not, to this point, at all acknowledged that prior to his vote, he was the sole vote leader. I didnt go into all of this at the time of the letter because I wanted Chang to reply without influence of my full impressions.

Chang Letter 1:
Chang asserts that he bought into Hans argument that Sbell was deliberately being obtuse in order to get Han lynched, particularly with a goal to keep himself above it by being able to blame Lopen or Sultan if Han flipped as town. Given Sbells flip, Chang concludes that Sbell was reaction-baiting in order to get reads on players, or to get other players to start to see his reads in the same way that he did. Chang also thinks that BCT is likely town from the Day 1 actions.

Stepping outside of the specific summary of letter 1, and piecing things together with this statement on BCT, I see Changs thought process as:
1. BCT is town, as is Han
2. SBell and Sultan are pushing BCT
3. Therefore, SBell and Sultan are likely scum. SBell has been more scummy (see: Han interactions), so he should be voted.
Back to the letters.

Peaf Letter 2:
Unsatisfied with Changs reply, I continued to prod. This time, I raised the sultan pressure on BCT. I wont dwell too much on my first paragraph because it has since we refuted my understanding of that part of the timeline already, and we dont need to litigate that again. My second paragraph was entirely focused on the timeline of early Topic 2, specifically with the accusation that he voted out of self-preservation and is trying to hide it.

Chang Letter 2:
The first paragraph is correcting my understanding of the timeline of pressure on BCT, and frankly Im pretty content with how he pushed back on me here. He called out specific posts from SBell and Poppy.
The second paragraph is him explaining his thought processes on his own Day 1 lynch train, something that I dont think we really had before this. He claims that he no longer felt that he was at a strong risk of dying at the time that he voted for Sbell, because Han was no longer pushing for Changs lynch. So while the self-preservation idea was in his head, it was not the driving force behind him voting for Sbell instead of someone else. He voted for Sbell because he thought Sbell was scum, and that is that.

Peaf Letter 3:
I lay off the timeline bit now that I see the error of my ways. I admit that the fact that BCT really put this whole thing into motion is baffling to me. I thank Chang for his contributions, because he did honestly help me a lot in understanding the last 200ish posts of Day 1.
Finally, I ask Chang about Han insights, because in his story the inputs from Han are a key part of why he goes on offense.

Editors note rereading the letters again makes Poppy look even worse for me, and Im even more comfortable with my current vote. Poppy was suspecting BCT, and then followed him on a lynch on Sbell? Well return to this.

Chang Letter 3:
Chang replies to my Han question by saying that he is distracted town. This is by far the longest of the letters, owed to the direct quotes from Han, but they are important. Chang also discusses the possible scenarios with the BCT trap event:
1. Sultan is scum and targeted only BCT to frame him, while the rest of scum saves up gems for the more powerful cards like the full trap negate spells.
2. BCT is scum and scum decided to spend 150 gems on two Pot of Greeds + the 50 gold trap (still can't remember the name) to try and townclear
3. (as Han suggested) Scum team just mass Pot of Greeded in case a day cop did exist to muddle the results.
Editors note having this spelled out in this fashion made it clearer to me than when Han said it. Again, I appreciate Changs assistance in helping me figure out the game.
Furthermore, with respect to Hans possibilities:
1. Han is town who wanted to protect himself from getting Pot of Greeded, so he spent 100 gold on Pot of Greed + the trap to prevent it
2. Han is scum who spent 50 gold on the trap to fake being town, and we don't know what he did with the rest of the gold (could save it, could have spent it on the mass pot of greed play)
Chang concludes that #2 would be extremely silly and wasteful because it would erase all plausible deniability if a day cop exists and scanned him. At that point, the argument would have to be that Han, if scum, is Godfather who did this ploy to in order to scan guilty. The simplest argument is that Han is town.

Peaf Not-Letter, End:
I again thank Chang for the correspondence.

I was too rude to sign this final letter, or to address it properly. I will take etiquette courses in the immediate future to remedy this slight against the cherished Changmas.

I summarized the letters to my best ability here, but have them in their full contents (with minor liberties taken in their formatting, for convenient consideration, but with no words changed beyond spelling corrections). If you want to save yourself the hassle of finding them, just ask.

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~Peaf~
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