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FYI I'm just replying to this because I wanna see if I'm learning the right way.

Crescent-Moon posted...

they killed a low activity vanilla instead

Mistake #1: You kill someone who's claimed if they're a potentially threatening role. They killed... someone who wasn't even a threat? Someone who wasn't doing anything? You leave inactives there and ignore them. Period. If the host wants to replace them, the host can replace them.

instant vote on the jailkeeper

Mistake #2: So their plan was to be like "LOL U LIAR" to the jailer, then? Uhh.... you ask questions before you vote if you're town. Like "Who'd you jail last night?" and "Why do you think scum kept you alive?" Only scum insta-votes for a claimed jailkeeper. Town tries to be like "Wait a minute..." and expose lies. Scum just points fingers quickly and doesn't hide that they actually know more than town.

later claimed doctor

Mistake #3: If there's a claimed jailkeeper, you don't claim doctor on D2 unless it's advertised as a role madness game, which is the only case when both can co-exist. The liar is blatantly the one who claimed long after the first, else they'd have counter-claimed D1 and led to a scum lynch.

outright refused to do anything other than talk about killing the JK

Mistake #4: You're claiming scum if you are trying to get town power lynched without explaining any other reads. You're supposed to be putting a puzzle together - so if you think this claimed jailkeeper is scum, theorize how that fits into the puzzle. Not doing so... yeah.

Oh, and Mistake #5: You need to remember rule 3: Be flexible. These guys seemed to have a plan for how D2 was gonna go and how everyone was just going to go along with it, and didn't change it once things started falling apart. The second scum should have bussed his teammate instead instead of getting both of them exposed.

Crescent-Moon posted...

I have absolutely no idea what the endgame was here

Mistake #6: They probably didn't have a plan, and instead went day-by-day. I know when I was scum in Nickelodeon Mafia I had an idea of who I wanted to stick around longer. These guys didn't plan for endgame. They didn't think any steps ahead at all.

There's also the related Mistake #7: They forgot what would happen if the jailkeeper was lynched. He would flip... Town Jailkeeper. And then town would know exactly who two dummy scummies were, and they'd be quick-lynched D3 and D4. Possibly by instant votes. So even if the plan worked, they'd be SOL. So not only did they not have a plan after D2, their D2 plan was terrible and ensured their loss.

...do I have all that right? Still trying to learn this stuff the best I can, which is why I felt the need to post this.