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CassandraCain posted...

Iron Man and Ant-Man were about the same level of prominence before the MCU began

See I really think when you argue this we're not even close to the same wavelength or experiences on this when you say things like that.

What I need to determine is if I'm an outlier or if y'all are just being ridiculous to try and win an argument because I was mean.

I would not at any point in my life have called Iron Man remotely obscure, and to compare him to Ant-Man is ridiculous to me. He's not Spider-Man Batman or Superman but he's on the A-tier below them. People know who Iron Man is without any interest in comics whatsoever. He bleeds into enough toys, video games, cartoons, etc and was a big enough deal a long time ago that a lot of parents know him by name, which means their kids will know him by name.

B-tier would be... most superheroes that got movies that weren't in the core avengers films, the x-men, or the big names of the justice league. Guys like Black Panther, Elektra, Daredevil, Deadpool, etc.

Ant-Man on the other hand I'd put firmly in the C-Tier. Known but you kinda need to be into comics to have any idea of who he is. No crossover appeal to casuals at all, at best they've heard of the name in passing.

I am not going to say I've done an extensive case study on literally everyone I've known but I will say I had some trouble getting people to go see Ant-Man with when none of the MCU films to that point had I had that problem. And that led to a lot of discussion of "oh Marvel is overdoing it now who the heck is Ant-Man" and yeah the only people who knew who he was were actual comic readers. And those same people knew who Shang Chi was. Again, just my experiences, but very conclusive tale told that I can't just throw them out.