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TopicStar Wars and Pokemon Mafia Topic 13 - The Last Topic
Kirby321
06/12/22 4:43:59 PM
#154:


Okay, I am now starting to realize why nobody likes walls...

Personally, I think I made sound arguments for the most part, and what you may think is scummy will differ from what I think is scummy. But I'll put aside my own ego here.

Instinctively, I would say any of the posts where I mentioned Doppelganger would be suspicious, especially the speculation on how it works with regarding to sending in the night action PMs. But you asked for facts, not theories. Because the main things I could see here are questions of why I'm clinging so much to the Doppelganger role PM (for either alignment the obvious answer is to assert that I'm Watcher) as a sticking point.

Another post is the one where I analyzed all of the nightkills. To put it simply, it's fluff. I didn't intend for it to be fluff, but it is. I gave thoughts and analysis on each night kill to try to make a discernible pattern, but none of them involved Ctes, who I was vocal about being the scum. Instead, I crafted theories that involved Chris, but in the end, I just went with a worthless "nothing conclusive" stance and babbled to fill up space. It was a low-effort post, but I don't think it's the one that looks the worst. The biggest one, by far, is:

Kirby321 posted...
But I am seeing this "alignment switch" nonsense popping up multiple times from Ctes, and I'm seriously tired of it. It's a ridiculous theory that banks on an insane amount of conditionals for it to be true. Look, I know that's hypocritical coming from the resident conspiracy theorist, but there's a limit to how deep the rabbit hole runs just to fit a narrative.

Chris, I understand you don't like my answers. Fine, whatever. I won't claim to be an orator, and my emotionally-driven mindset tends to make my tone swing all over the place. But do you seriously believe that I used to be a townie, did something unknowingly, and woke up as a scum outta nowhere? Do you not think it's telling that you asked Ctes to review all of Day 1 for my interactions with scum, and best he could up with is how it all supports his own crazy theory? It's because it's bogus.

I can't believe you have the gall to say my defenses "take equal or less hand waving as 'two godfathers'" like are you kidding me. Tell me why I saw Ulti visit you and didn't kill him if I were scum. Tell me why that's simpler than Ctes being scanned Godfather. Tell me why Isquen didn't use poison or used a redirect on someone else or didn't use his back-up at all if I were lying about being redirected to JC. Tell me why I, as scum, would target JC despite the two flavor scanners already outing themselves, especially knowing that I claimed Watcher and didn't counter-claimed despite knowing scum had a Doppleganger, even though Sheep was killed for getting counter-claimed by the actual Tracker. Tell me why these theories are simpler to explain than two Godfathers being in the game.

You say you had answers to all of this, and I want to hear them now.

This post is, in hindsight, extremely defensive and aggressive. It has a very clear tone of frustration. There's no reason to get so worked up over the "alignment switch" theory if it's truly as ridiculous as it sounds, right?

This sudden burst of aggressiveness could be telling of a scum who had a plan that is now blowing up in his face. Chris, you know from my night action PMs last game that I usually have a meticulous plan going in to each day. I would also have scummates helping me post-mortem, guiding me on what I should say.

This post was raw, off-the-cuff energy. It's a drastic change from the more calm, confident tones used in any other post of mine when debating with Ctes. It's clear that I was acting on my own here rather than being guided by anyone else, and the frustrations expressed here could come off as "Why is my plan not working?!"

Around this time, Ctes also began digging into Chris. Rather timely that I also directed aggression toward Chris here, no? And my response was very much all about disproving every part of Chris's argument, as if my intents were to possibly make Chris look bad. Playing both sides of the coin, in a sense.

Otherwise, you could really take any post where I'm debating with Ctes. He's not wrong that majority of my arguments have been defenses and asking "Why this?" or "Why that?". To be frank, I've got nothing on Ctes, so defenses are the best thing I have. Proving that I'm the Town Watcher is the best avenue I have, and this is true for either alignment, but clinging to "Ctes is another Godfather" could be perceived as a lazy scum path toward victory.

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