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Topic	People are complaining that Thor in the new movie is looking for peace.
ParanoidObsessive 04/21/22 4:58:04 PM #27:	Metalsonic66 posted... The thing is, the Jane Thor comics were actually really good, as was the Unworthy Thor miniseries. We can agree to disagree, but you're literally the first person I've ever met who thinks that. Metalsonic66 posted... How was Falcon Captain America a "Hamfisted choice" though? He deserved the title more than Bucky did. In the comics? Cap and Falcon hadn't really been a close team since the 70s. And not only was Bucky always sort of portrayed as the one sidekick Cap was always really close to (to the point where it kind of colored his relationship with Nomad in the 80s), but after they brought Bucky back as the Winter Soldier he'd become strongly tied to Cap in a lot of stories. It seemed almost a given that Bucky would become the new Cap if Cap retired/died/etc (even to the point where he was literally Cap for a while after Civil War), and going "lol no, Falcon's his true successor" felt awkward as fuck and blatantly forced. If anything, there were multiple other characters in the comics that felt like they had way more claim to the legacy of Captain America than Falcon ever did (and keeping in mind, Falcon already has a long and established identity of his own), so it comes across as feeling more like Marvel going "Okay, we need a diverse character to fill this slot", and then just grabbing Cap's only real black friend and quickly trying to establish him as the One True Successor than it ever felt like anything that grew organically out of the actual stories being told. In the movies/shows? There's maybe more of an argument in favor of Falcon because Bucky's a bit crazy/has a criminal record and Falcon is one of Steve's few good friends in the present, but even that's a bit weak because Falcon was rarely presented as being that good a friend - if anything, he and Cap are almost presented like casual friends while the first two Captain America films paint Bucky as being even more of Cap's bestest friend ever than the comics ever did. If anything, as presented in the films/shows Sharon might have had more claim to the role/shield (at least until they arbitrarily turned her into a villain for no good reason). --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:964466238] in People are... [t:79990412]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metalsonic66 posted...</cite> <quote>The thing is, the Jane Thor comics were actually really good, as was the Unworthy Thor miniseries.</quote> We can agree to disagree, but you're literally the first person I've ever met who thinks that. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted...</cite> <quote>How was Falcon Captain America a "Hamfisted choice" though? He deserved the title more than Bucky did.</quote> In the comics? Cap and Falcon hadn't really been a close team since the 70s. And not only was Bucky always sort of portrayed as the one sidekick Cap was always really close to (to the point where it kind of colored his relationship with Nomad in the 80s), but after they brought Bucky back as the Winter Soldier he'd become strongly tied to Cap in a lot of stories. It seemed almost a given that Bucky would become the new Cap if Cap retired/died/etc (even to the point where he was literally Cap for a while after Civil War), and going "lol no, Falcon's his true successor" felt awkward as fuck and blatantly forced. If anything, there were multiple other characters in the comics that felt like they had way more claim to the legacy of Captain America than Falcon ever did (and keeping in mind, Falcon already has a long and established identity of his own), so it comes across as feeling more like Marvel going "Okay, we need a diverse character to fill this slot", and then just grabbing Cap's only real black friend and quickly trying to establish him as the One True Successor than it ever felt like anything that grew organically out of the actual stories being told. In the movies/shows? There's maybe more of an argument in favor of Falcon because Bucky's a bit crazy/has a criminal record and Falcon is one of Steve's few good friends in the present, but even that's a bit weak because Falcon was rarely presented as being that good a friend - if anything, he and Cap are almost presented like casual friends while the first two Captain America films paint Bucky as being even more of Cap's bestest friend ever than the comics ever did. If anything, as presented in the films/shows Sharon might have had more claim to the role/shield (at least until they arbitrarily turned her into a villain for no good reason). --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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