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Topic	DeVos: College sexual assault enforcement is a failure and will be replaced
TommyG663513 09/07/17 9:06:33 PM #33:	lderivedx posted... TommyG663513 posted... lderivedx posted... Isn't this saying it'll be more difficult to convict of sexual misconduct? Yes, but that may be a good thing. It depends. We will see. I'm not sure that the solution to something that's horribly under-reported is to make it even less worth someone's time to report it. "Beyond reasonable doubt" is an extremely high standard of evidence for sexual misconduct because of its nature: it's often one person's word against another. She's absolutely right in that we need better support for victims, but it really sounds like she's courting the "i'm terrified of being falsely accused of rape" crowd while saying generalities that nobody in their right mind would argue with. I hope I'm wrong about that. Well yeah I very much agree with your suspicion. I mean, I do think people being falsely accused and punished is an issue that needs to be addressed, but I would still think that people sexually assaulting other people and getting away with it is the bigger issue. It seems difficult to fairly address both issues at once. Even the current system that gives the accuser the benefit of the doubt seems to have failings in helping victims. I like the general idea she is presenting, but will remain very skeptical until I see what she is actually doing about it. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:886214643] in DeVos: Col... [t:75752146]...</cite> <quote><cite>lderivedx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TommyG663513 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lderivedx posted...</cite> <quote>Isn't this saying it'll be more difficult to convict of sexual misconduct?</quote> Yes, but that may be a good thing. It depends. We will see.</quote> I'm not sure that the solution to something that's horribly under-reported is to make it even less worth someone's time to report it. "Beyond reasonable doubt" is an extremely high standard of evidence for sexual misconduct because of its nature: it's often one person's word against another. She's absolutely right in that we need better support for victims, but it really sounds like she's courting the "i'm terrified of being falsely accused of rape" crowd while saying generalities that nobody in their right mind would argue with. I hope I'm wrong about that.</quote> Well yeah I very much agree with your suspicion. I mean, I do think people being falsely accused and punished is an issue that needs to be addressed, but I would still think that people sexually assaulting other people and getting away with it is the bigger issue. It seems difficult to fairly address both issues at once. Even the current system that gives the accuser the benefit of the doubt seems to have failings in helping victims. I like the general idea she is presenting, but will remain very skeptical until I see what she is actually doing about it. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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