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Topic	Hearthstone Discussion Topic: Death Is Eternal, My Turn Is Not!
MariaTaylor 09/06/17 6:03:00 PM #468:	bng_mmmk posted... What win % do you say a card should be totally removed? If Bonemare wins 70% of the time and you cut it, will people start complaining about the 67% winning cards? Then the 63% winning cards? Will cards that aren't as good just increase in their winning % once you remove the top performing cards? a card should be removed if it can single handedly defeat an entire deck, if it drives the winrate of a specific class so high that this class dominates the meta, if the card does not fit in the arena format due to logistical reasons, or if it significantly hampers the ability of a given class to perform in arena that it becomes unplayable in the meta frost lich jaina is a good example of type A forgotten torch was a great example of type B and this was handled correctly quests are a good example of type C and were not included for this reason dead man's hand is a good example of type D as for your earlier question of how drafting ONE bad card can ruin a deck. it can't. the issue is that warrior for example has so many type D cards that in a given draft you're far more likely to pull a dead draw or multiple dead draws than with any other class. this makes warrior have a built in disadvantage against every other class in the meta. or, even before getting to dead draws, think of it similar to what makes Frost Lich Jaina difficult to play against. once her hero power has activated then any 1 health minion, or minion that can be traded down to 1 health, becomes unplayable. this hampers the draw RNG of the person playing against frost lich jaina and can turn their draws into dead draws before the cards are even played. the effect here is similar. if warrior has more UNPLAYABLE cards than any other class, then they're more likely to get a choice between 2 cards instead of 3 cards, or even forced to pick 1 card because you're given 2 outright bad options. I don't think I need to explain at length why being given 2 good choices or no good choices is worse than being given 3 good choices. --- ~* 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 X ~* http://i.imgur.com/c0Dtmjr.jpg <cite>MariaTaylor posted [p:886145573] in Hearthston... [t:75713320]...</cite> <quote><cite>bng_mmmk posted...</cite> <quote>What win % do you say a card should be totally removed? If Bonemare wins 70% of the time and you cut it, will people start complaining about the 67% winning cards? Then the 63% winning cards? Will cards that aren't as good just increase in their winning % once you remove the top performing cards?</quote> a card should be removed if it can single handedly defeat an entire deck, if it drives the winrate of a specific class so high that this class dominates the meta, if the card does not fit in the arena format due to logistical reasons, or if it significantly hampers the ability of a given class to perform in arena that it becomes unplayable in the meta frost lich jaina is a good example of type A forgotten torch was a great example of type B and this was handled correctly quests are a good example of type C and were not included for this reason dead man's hand is a good example of type D as for your earlier question of how drafting ONE bad card can ruin a deck. it can't. the issue is that warrior for example has so many type D cards that in a given draft you're far more likely to pull a dead draw or multiple dead draws than with any other class. this makes warrior have a built in disadvantage against every other class in the meta. or, even before getting to dead draws, think of it similar to what makes Frost Lich Jaina difficult to play against. once her hero power has activated then any 1 health minion, or minion that can be traded down to 1 health, becomes unplayable. this hampers the draw RNG of the person playing against frost lich jaina and can turn their draws into dead draws before the cards are even played. the effect here is similar. if warrior has more UNPLAYABLE cards than any other class, then they're more likely to get a choice between 2 cards instead of 3 cards, or even forced to pick 1 card because you're given 2 outright bad options. I don't think I need to explain at length why being given 2 good choices or no good choices is worse than being given 3 good choices. --- ~* 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 X ~* http://i.imgur.com/c0Dtmjr.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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