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Topic	Hearthstone Discussion Topic: Death Is Eternal, My Turn Is Not!
MariaTaylor 09/06/17 5:38:16 PM #465:	thinking about it, it's far worse than what I described above. because of the high deck variance insanity, only players with absolutely top tier decks can thrive at 10+ wins. so while it might be possible to go 10-0 with an average deck, you will quickly get slaughtered down to 10-3. most of the decks at 10-0 and above are going to be THE top tier decks (IN TERMS OF QUALITY) competing against each other. this is completely independent of player skill. a low skill player with a top 5% deck will go 10-3 or 11-3 every time. a high skill player with a top 5% deck is the only one with good odds to go 12-0, 12-2, or even 12-1. this means that the skill gap is incredibly, incredibly narrow. your draft luck: determines whether you fall in the 1-9 range or the 10-12 range if 1-9: your draw RNG and who you get matched against determines how far you make it along this point. in the absolute luckiest case you can make it to 10-0 and then get pushed down to 10-3 mercilessly by opponents with deck quality that completely overpowers you. any match in the 1-9 range is just as likely to be an auto loss as an auto win. most of the time it will be simple curvestone. if 10-12: this is the only place where the skill gap exists. IF you are lucky enough to draft a deck that has a chance to go 10-12 wins, then your skill determines where you fall along the 10-12 curve. so in 95% of runs your placement is determined by draft or draw RNG. in 5% of runs your placement is determined by your skill, but only because you had a good enough draft RNG to get far enough to where it matters. I've very often been a defender of hearthstone as a game where your skill will matter over a large number of games, even if there is a high level of RNG in one individual game. this is still the case in constructed. however, Arena has very clearly been broken. they actually changed the mode to make it so RNG will be the larger determining factor over a large number games. why they would do that, I have no idea. --- ~* 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 X ~* http://i.imgur.com/c0Dtmjr.jpg <cite>MariaTaylor posted [p:886144336] in Hearthston... [t:75713320]...</cite> <quote>thinking about it, it's far worse than what I described above. because of the high deck variance insanity, only players with absolutely top tier decks can thrive at 10+ wins. so while it might be possible to go 10-0 with an average deck, you will quickly get slaughtered down to 10-3. most of the decks at 10-0 and above are going to be THE top tier decks (IN TERMS OF QUALITY) competing against each other. this is completely independent of player skill. a low skill player with a top 5% deck will go 10-3 or 11-3 every time. a high skill player with a top 5% deck is the only one with good odds to go 12-0, 12-2, or even 12-1. this means that the skill gap is incredibly, incredibly narrow. your draft luck: determines whether you fall in the 1-9 range or the 10-12 range if 1-9: your draw RNG and who you get matched against determines how far you make it along this point. in the absolute luckiest case you can make it to 10-0 and then get pushed down to 10-3 mercilessly by opponents with deck quality that completely overpowers you. any match in the 1-9 range is just as likely to be an auto loss as an auto win. most of the time it will be simple curvestone. if 10-12: this is the only place where the skill gap exists. IF you are lucky enough to draft a deck that has a chance to go 10-12 wins, then your skill determines where you fall along the 10-12 curve. so in 95% of runs your placement is determined by draft or draw RNG. in 5% of runs your placement is determined by your skill, but only because you had a good enough draft RNG to get far enough to where it matters. I've very often been a defender of hearthstone as a game where your skill will matter over a large number of games, even if there is a high level of RNG in one individual game. this is still the case in constructed. however, Arena has very clearly been broken. they actually changed the mode to make it so RNG will be the larger determining factor over a large number games. why they would do that, I have no idea. --- ~* 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 X ~* http://i.imgur.com/c0Dtmjr.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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