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Topic	"I do not support a livable wage"
Zeus 08/31/17 1:26:34 PM #43:	Lokarin posted... Which option would you prefer: 1. Execute the poor 2. Livable wages 3. Universal basic income independent of work https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/94/False-Dilemma BlackScythe0 posted... Smarkil posted... It was just a flub of a response, but her overall point is there. That people don't deserve to live if they work? ...what? Kana posted... Cell phones and internet are not unnecessary, dude. It's 2017. Honestly, even in 2017 the internet is still a luxury. And a cell phone is only a necessity if you don't have a landline. slacker03150 posted... Peterass posted... Proof that It's not necessary to have either in 2017 They are not in the job market. they don't have to worry about applying online, being denied jobs because hr thinks without a cell phone you will be harder to reach if needed or because you are too hard to contact to schedule the interview before the job is filled, managing their work benefits which has mostly been moved online, working the same 8 hours the bank is open making online banking almost a requirement, educating yourself in your spare time so you can get one of the better jobs people keep belittling you for not having etc. That said I believe it is possible to live without them, but you are basically saying that the poor don't deserve a good chance at upward mobility just because they are poor now. Except not having personal internet doesn't mean you can't access the internet. More importantly, I'm not sure that cell phone ownership is a consideration for employers since it's kinda assumed these days. adjl posted... This just in: Running a business costs money. If employing people doesn't make you enough money to keep those people alive, your business sucks and you can't afford to stay open. This just in: Wages cost businesses money. If you can't establish a personal value good enough to command a higher wage, you shouldn't be entitled to that wage and should be grateful to take whatever they offer. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:885783968] in "I do... [t:75697224]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Which option would you prefer: 1. Execute the poor 2. Livable wages 3. Universal basic income independent of work</quote> https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/94/False-Dilemma <cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>It was just a flub of a response, but her overall point is there.</quote> That people don't deserve to live if they work?</quote> ...what? <cite>Kana posted...</cite> <quote>Cell phones and internet are not unnecessary, dude. It's 2017.</quote> Honestly, even in 2017 the internet is still a luxury. And a cell phone is only a necessity if you don't have a landline. <cite>slacker03150 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Peterass posted...</cite> <quote>Proof that It's not necessary to have either in 2017 </quote> They are not in the job market. they don't have to worry about applying online, being denied jobs because hr thinks without a cell phone you will be harder to reach if needed or because you are too hard to contact to schedule the interview before the job is filled, managing their work benefits which has mostly been moved online, working the same 8 hours the bank is open making online banking almost a requirement, educating yourself in your spare time so you can get one of the better jobs people keep belittling you for not having etc. That said I believe it is possible to live without them, but you are basically saying that the poor don't deserve a good chance at upward mobility just because they are poor now.</quote> Except not having personal internet doesn't mean you can't access the internet. More importantly, I'm not sure that cell phone ownership is a consideration for employers since it's kinda assumed these days. <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>This just in: Running a business costs money. If employing people doesn't make you enough money to keep those people alive, your business sucks and you can't afford to stay open.</quote> This just in: Wages cost businesses money. If you can't establish a personal value good enough to command a higher wage, you shouldn't be entitled to that wage and should be grateful to take whatever they offer. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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