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Topic	Can someone explain to a Brit the drama surrounding the confederacy statues?
Blackstar110 08/18/17 1:36:37 PM #32:	ROBANN_88 posted... Blackstar110 posted... but the statues are still rallying points for the deepest dredges of filth in America; neo Nazis and Klansmen Blackstar110 posted... there's just no reason to be honoring them and providing the weird place of pseudo-worship for racists. clarification needed. is this about them being racists in a time when that was arguably a common thing, or is it about their "followers" being racists now? A little of Columns A and B, to varying degrees. Mostly B. EVERYONE was kinda racist in the 1800s. However, the Confederacy seceded and waged war to keep the slave trade alive. That's why it's not really comparable when people say "well, Jefferson owned slaves! We tearing down his statues?" No, because Jefferson didn't get a statue for going to war with his own country so he could have slaves, he got a statue for the Declaration and being a key Founding Father. All that being said, it's beside the point. No one woke up one morning 150 years later and said "know what? Fuck the confederacy! Take down the statues!" It's only a subject at hand because they've become a symbol of vile, CURRENT racism and neonazism. That's the only reason we're even talking about it. --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:885010613] in Can someon... [t:75683833]...</cite> <quote><cite>ROBANN_88 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>but the statues are still rallying points for the deepest dredges of filth in America; neo Nazis and Klansmen </quote> <cite>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote> there's just no reason to be honoring them and providing the weird place of pseudo-worship for racists.</quote> clarification needed. is this about them being racists in a time when that was arguably a common thing, or is it about their "followers" being racists now?</quote> A little of Columns A and B, to varying degrees. Mostly B. EVERYONE was kinda racist in the 1800s. However, the Confederacy seceded and waged war to keep the slave trade alive. That's why it's not really comparable when people say "well, Jefferson owned slaves! We tearing down his statues?" No, because Jefferson didn't get a statue for going to war with his own country so he could have slaves, he got a statue for the Declaration and being a key Founding Father. All that being said, it's beside the point. No one woke up one morning 150 years later and said "know what? Fuck the confederacy! Take down the statues!" It's only a subject at hand because they've become a symbol of vile, CURRENT racism and neonazism. That's the only reason we're even talking about it. --- -Shred</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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