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Topic	increased minimum wage encourages job losses and automation
Balrog0 08/16/17 10:35:36 AM #14:	1337toothbrush posted... PoopPotato posted... If we were to do a UBI, woukd you be in favor of a voucher system instead if straight cash? Like say, this coupon can be used for utilities, this one for rent, etc? No, because targeted subsidies tend to encourage those industries to increase their prices since that covered amount is considered extra. Just look at student loans. To me it is less about that, and more about the fact that I think people are in the best position to determine how to spend their money almost all of the time. Earmarking the cash for different things is wrongheaded, though I would be okay with some kind of cash-like subsidies like SNAP for stuff like housing and transportation as an intermediary step. The Catgirl Fondler posted... Job losses and automation were already happening though, attempts to increase minimum wage just sped up the process. Seriously, let's not pretend like businesses were "forced" into doing something they've been doing for decades (protecting their bottom-line at the expense of all others), let's also not pretend that anyone on CE actually gives a fuck about people being rendered poor and homeless. "Fuck you, got mine" is the mantra of the middle and upper class, always has been. no one said they were forced into anything, and I do give a fuck about people being poor and homeless --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:884877313] in increased ... [t:75676495]...</cite> <quote><cite>1337toothbrush posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PoopPotato posted...</cite> <quote>If we were to do a UBI, woukd you be in favor of a voucher system instead if straight cash? Like say, this coupon can be used for utilities, this one for rent, etc?</quote> No, because targeted subsidies tend to encourage those industries to increase their prices since that covered amount is considered extra. Just look at student loans.</quote> To me it is less about that, and more about the fact that I think people are in the best position to determine how to spend their money almost all of the time. Earmarking the cash for different things is wrongheaded, though I would be okay with some kind of cash-like subsidies like SNAP for stuff like housing and transportation as an intermediary step. <cite>The Catgirl Fondler posted...</cite> <quote>Job losses and automation were already happening though, attempts to increase minimum wage just sped up the process. Seriously, let's not pretend like businesses were "forced" into doing something they've been doing for decades (protecting their bottom-line at the expense of all others), let's also not pretend that anyone on CE actually gives a fuck about people being rendered poor and homeless. "Fuck you, got mine" is the mantra of the middle and upper class, always has been.</quote> no one said they were forced into anything, and I do give a fuck about people being poor and homeless --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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