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AdviceMan posted...

WaterLink posted...

lderivedx posted...

If a minority says something awful about the majority, there's not the same threat as if someone in the majority says the same thing about a minority group.

And why exactly is that?

For the same reason why the laissez-faire approach is misleading.

Some people, and for understandable reasoning, think that affirmative action in any form in discriminatory, and the removal of that would make pure merit based hiring. However, that assumes that people are objective. They aren't.

When it comes to hiring and interviewing, people are drawn to people with personalities and characteristics like themselves. This causes a dangerous cycle. People from X neighborhood hire people from that neighborhood and neighborhoods like it, getting the same kinds of people. They're not consciously hating on other people, but due to the incongruities, they don't feel the same connection and thus give preferential treatment.

The reason why minority against majority hatred isn't as impactful as vice versa is because the minority has no way of actually implementing their hatred to harm the majority. Just replace words with fists. You see 10 people wailing on one guy, and that one guy throwing punches back, whose safety are you concerned with, all other things equal?

Sure connections are a thing.

But if person isn't cut out for a job, they're not going to last long inevitably. Regardless of connections.

But if they are cut out for the job, then what's the problem? If people know each other or have prior connections or mutual friends, then sure they may be more prone to hire them. This goes for whatever the race may be. A white guy could be hired over another white guy with similar qualifications simply because the other one has an in. It's not racism or privilege then, but simply change the color of the skin then all of a sudden it's bias.

The fact of that matter is, for the purpose of what we're discussing and the ideology behind it, it's who you know. There are white people that probably don't particularly care for other white people in power but they'll still use those vague connections and kiss ass to get a job or whatever. But if black man does the same thing, he's an Uncle Tom for sucking up to the white man. But in reality, lower white men do the same thing to higher white men. So is it the white man's fault for the kind of perception? Really?

So that's not really a white privilege thing, it's more of a class privelege thing. Just so happens that white people make more of the upper class, and I mean what are you gonna do? White people make up most of the population. It doesn't mean that just because you're white that it means you're priveleged.
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