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Topic	Seems like Malcom X gets swept to the side, why don't we celebrate him more?
AmericaTheBrave 08/05/17 11:39:24 PM #132:	Transcendentia posted... AmericaTheBrave posted... I4NRulez posted... If you isolate pieces of his life yes, he did preach some hateful things but his life as a whole shows the beginnings of where he came and the man he ended up becoming. Plus Malcolm X's hate was a reaction to the proactive hate his people received from white people. If Malcolm X lived today and had all those views, he'd be just a regular racist jerk. But he lived in pre-60's America where blacks were second-class citizens and seen as subhuman by the whole government and every-day white people acted accordingly. He had family members who were murdered by whites who got away with it. You try feeling rosy about your oppressors living under that. So because some of his family members were killed, somehow his beliefs about all white people being white devils and failed experiments is justified? It might be understandable for him to hate the white people who did that, but how does that change that Richard Spencer preaches the same type of racial supremacy? If Richard Spencer had family members who were killed by black people, would that justify or in some way explain away Richard Spencer's evil views? Would that warrant people upholding him as some beacon of freedom and truth and nobility? His personal tragedies alone don't justify it, but that in addition to not receiving justice for them because of racism, not being considered a full citizen of the country, having it actively taught that you're lesser....can you really blame him for falling into a weird cult that tried to give him some validation and him using it to try to uplift his people? Whatever happened to "you can't judge people from the past by modern standards?" You cannot divorce Malcolm X from the circumstances of his times, just like any other historical figure. Richard Spencer is a product of today's more peaceful and egalitarian times. So he's just a racist douche. --- http://i.imgur.com/loj3Iz4.jpg <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:884262011] in Seems like... [t:75640549]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote><cite>I4NRulez posted...</cite> <quote>If you isolate pieces of his life yes, he did preach some hateful things but his life as a whole shows the beginnings of where he came and the man he ended up becoming.</quote> Plus Malcolm X's hate was a reaction to the proactive hate his people received from white people. If Malcolm X lived today and had all those views, he'd be just a regular racist jerk. But he lived in pre-60's America where blacks were second-class citizens and seen as subhuman by the whole government and every-day white people acted accordingly. He had family members who were murdered by whites who got away with it. You try feeling rosy about your oppressors living under that.</quote> So because some of his family members were killed, somehow his beliefs about all white people being white devils and failed experiments is justified? It might be understandable for him to hate the white people who did that, but how does that change that Richard Spencer preaches the same type of racial supremacy? If Richard Spencer had family members who were killed by black people, would that justify or in some way explain away Richard Spencer's evil views? Would that warrant people upholding him as some beacon of freedom and truth and nobility?</quote> His personal tragedies alone don't justify it, but that in addition to not receiving justice for them because of racism, not being considered a full citizen of the country, having it actively taught that you're lesser....can you really blame him for falling into a weird cult that tried to give him some validation and him using it to try to uplift his people? Whatever happened to "you can't judge people from the past by modern standards?" You cannot divorce Malcolm X from the circumstances of his times, just like any other historical figure. Richard Spencer is a product of today's more peaceful and egalitarian times. So he's just a racist douche. --- http://i.imgur.com/loj3Iz4.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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