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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

It just seems like you said something that gave people an idea about you that you didn't mean for them to have, and your way of addressing that was to compound it instead of addressing it at the source,

...except that's what i did.
i, verbatem, said that i was not justifying or approving of it and to not put words in my mouth. you mentioned me quoting myself - yeah. because i literally said that.

KP then comes into this topic and does exactly that, saying i was justifying it.


how does the simplest, most direct statement mean the exact opposite?

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Why are we posting definitions of "explanation?"

first off, it was justification, not explanation. second, because the convo got into the difference on how explanation, expectations, and justifications are all different and independent of each other.

your dictionary bit? SEP says you shouldn't expect unjustified actions.
that doesn't make sense so i get into it with a few examples and see if maybe the issue is in definitions. if you ain't using the same dictionary, of course it won't make sense. once that's done, should you A) be able to prove explanations are fine, and B) prove that expectations are fine, both without having to get into any justifications at all, then you reach the same conclusion i'm at.

what you're complaining about here is the argument goes on to a more detailed level. and i mean... of course it would, SEP ain't saying i'm justifying anything. no beef there, it's him going "hey, here's some things about how it's easy to misunderstand," and me going "hey, here's why what you're saying doesn't make sense."

i honestly don't think KP misunderstood anything there because it's pretty hard to misunderstand "this is not me justifying" to meaning the exact opposite.

i just think he's being a jackass and lying through his teeth.
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