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adjl 05/03/17 12:04:35 AM #32:	Smarkil posted... Lol they operate on the same f*ing principle. They only work when their customer is ignorant. No, it's not discrimination because it's colored pink. Uhh, literally by definition, if it's singling out a subpopulation and treating them differently, it's discriminatory. When that discrimination doesn't have a valid basis, that's not cool. Smarkil posted... First of all, calling them scam victims is tantamount to insanity. They're losing money because they've been deceived into thinking something's worth more than it is. That's pretty much the definition of being scammed. Nice job fixating on an aside, though. Smarkil posted... Second of all, yes the issue absolutely is that consumers should educate themselves. No, it's not. That is an issue, certainly, but it's a separate one. The issue here is that some consumers need to do more to educate themselves than others, because of discriminatory marketing practices. Smarkil posted... When the amount of 'education' that's required is literally just taking a cheap item and an expensive item and putting them side by side to say, "Oh, the ingredients are the same", yeah I think we can safely place that onus on the fing 'victims' lol. And you think it's okay to expect half of the population to do that while giving the other half a free pass? Furthermore, it's rarely that simple. If you've ever cooked, you know that having the same ingredient list doesn't mean having the same product. Smarkil posted... Who cares if it's scummy? Vote with your dollar. Tell Herbal Essences that their bulls doesn't work by not buying it. Herbal Essences doesn't really care about my dollar, because they have so many other dollars. Hence I'm targeting all those other dollars. Why you're refusing to accept that these practices are scummy and that word should be spread about them, I cannot fathom. Smarkil posted... If they're different, then the entire point of the argument is moot, init? That's not her point at all. She was saying that, because some things are different and others aren't, keeping on top of which ones can be freely substituted is an unreasonable amount of work for most consumers, a fact which companies are more than happy to prey upon. Smarkil posted... But don't pretend the business is in the wrong for making money. They're not in the wrong for making money. They're in the wrong for lying. You seem to be extremely reluctant to accept this, and I'm not sure why. I can't help but feel like you just said "RAWR I HATE FEMINISM YOU'RE ALL WRONG" and are letting that take the place of actually thinking about the issue at hand. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:878371957] in I had to s... [t:75303427]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>Lol they operate on the same fing principle. They only work when their customer is ignorant. No, it's not discrimination because it's colored pink. </quote> Uhh, literally by definition, if it's singling out a subpopulation and treating them differently, it's discriminatory. When that discrimination doesn't have a valid basis, that's not cool. <cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>First of all, calling them scam victims is tantamount to insanity.</quote> They're losing money because they've been deceived into thinking something's worth more than it is. That's pretty much the definition of being scammed. Nice job fixating on an aside, though. <cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>Second of all, yes the issue absolutely is that consumers should educate themselves.</quote> No, it's not. That is an issue, certainly, but it's a separate one. The issue here is that some consumers need to do more to educate themselves than others, because of discriminatory marketing practices. <cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>When the amount of 'education' that's required is literally just taking a cheap item and an expensive item and putting them side by side to say, "Oh, the ingredients are the same", yeah I think we can safely place that onus on the fing 'victims' lol. </quote> And you think it's okay to expect half of the population to do that while giving the other half a free pass? Furthermore, it's rarely that simple. If you've ever cooked, you know that having the same ingredient list doesn't mean having the same product. <cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>Who cares if it's scummy? Vote with your dollar. Tell Herbal Essences that their bulls* doesn't work by not buying it. </quote> Herbal Essences doesn't really care about my dollar, because they have so many other dollars. Hence I'm targeting all those other dollars. Why you're refusing to accept that these practices are scummy and that word should be spread about them, I cannot fathom. <cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>If they're different, then the entire point of the argument is moot, init? </quote> That's not her point at all. She was saying that, because some things are different and others aren't, keeping on top of which ones can be freely substituted is an unreasonable amount of work for most consumers, a fact which companies are more than happy to prey upon. <cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>But don't pretend the business is in the wrong for making money.</quote> They're not in the wrong for making money. They're in the wrong for lying. You seem to be extremely reluctant to accept this, and I'm not sure why. I can't help but feel like you just said "RAWR I HATE FEMINISM YOU'RE ALL WRONG" and are letting that take the place of actually thinking about the issue at hand. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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