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andel posted...

reagan was at the very beginning of the 'moral majority' type evangelicals who have given israel much more power in lobbying and generally among american consciousness. there is no comparison to the attitudes of americans in the 80's to now. the fact that even the majority of progressives in the federal government generally support israel should tell you about the current reality.

we don't have to always blindly support israel, and this conflict may be the start of the american public turning against that blind loyalty, but we are still a long way from that and no candidate in '24 that comes out against supporting israel in any public fashion will win a general election.

Okay, but this is a separate argument than whether Trump and Biden follow a consensus of previous presidents on how to handle Israel. It doesn't change any of what I just posted responding to you.

As to the argument in this post, if he was on that razor thin and specific an edge with the voting public, then he would not have gone in direct defiance of Israel's demand to veto the latest UNSC vote for a ceasefire that caused them to make good on their threat to cancel their trip to Washington.

It just sounds like trying hard to believe that the current administration has no choice in the matter of how many arms and how much intel it gives to Israel thanks to a gun to its back held by the American people. But like, get real. The average American doesn't know what an MK84 2,000 pound bomb is and does not have the visibility into the MIC to judge how much the US can be sending to Israel VS how much it is.