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TopicDo you think the world is overpopulated?
DarkDoc
03/16/24 5:50:27 AM
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reincarnator07 posted...
Sounds like the speed limit has overperformed at making it safer for pedestrians.

And overperformed at wiping out revenues for a lot of local businesses, because people are choosing not to go shopping or take a holiday in Wales.

Over the longer term, it will also overperform at giving people breathing difficulties. Because cars are not built for driving 20mph and putting that as the default speed limit for an entire country is just fucking dumb.

UnicornRaline posted...
With current agricultural science and space it's estimated that up to 20 billion people could be fed adequately.

How convenient that it's a nice round number. Almost as if it was complete bullshit that somebody just made up.

reincarnator07 posted...
I don't question that the UK is plunging further into car dependency, only that it's a desirable outcome.

But ask yourself why McDonald's and all these other successful companies are changing the fundamentals of their business in this way. It's almost as if it's better or something. Like, McDonald's are experts at "generating revenue", they know what they're doing.

reincarnator07 posted...
If you can just pop to a store down the road rather than drive for several miles, that's a positive for everyone involved. If your kids can simply walk to school or take a bus rather than having to rely on being driven across town, that's good.

Yes. It's good.

I just think you're having real trouble understanding the word can't. As in "not everybody can live close to everything"

reincarnator07 posted...
Since you seem to be more sure on the numbers, please provide an actual breakdown of these people not in work. Let's get some data on them.

I'm no expert. I just know how to Google something. And I know to bear in mind that "unemployment" has been hijacked and no longer means "people who are not employed". Google has been suggesting stories to me on a daily basis this week, from several different newspapers. It even cropped up on the Gamefaqs Poll Of The Day, lol.

Breakdown is that 9.2 million people of working age in the UK are unemployed, but if you exclude lots of people, you get to make yourself look good by claiming "1.2 million unemployed."

Just like they're using LED TVs coming down in price to show that inflation is low.

reincarnator07 posted...
Stations weren't randomly built, they were built at destinations.

Or, a line was built connecting 2 places, and it went in a straight line, therefore not every station in-between is actually in a town centre.

reincarnator07 posted...
It's infrastructure for cars, just like roads really. Problem is that infrastructure doesn't generate income. Obviously you're gonna need a certain amount of infrastructure, but car specific infrastructure takes up silly amounts of land for the amount of people it serves.

It generates money for the business (eg cinema car park - people aren't just going there and parking their car for no reason). It sometimes generates additional revenue by literally charging people to park (some national trust places, which are otherwise inaccessible, charge money to park when the attraction itself is free).
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