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TopicStar Trek DS9 was great and revolutionary SPOILERS
Charged151
03/13/24 9:38:39 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I mean Kai Winn was always an evil villain
There was more going on with her character than that, but almost all qualities of the character were negative. Being easily manipulated into almost bringing the Cardassians back to Bajor...embracing the Pah-Wraiths...making love to Gul Dukat. I remember her for always being played as a fiddle by other villains. She did save Sisko's son on one occasion though... IDK. She just never did anything for me and I never was all that pleased with her getting screentime.

UnfairRepresent posted...
I 100% agree on Gul Dukat tho. The writers were pissed off about how deep and complex he had gotten and the positive fan response to him so they basically went "Fuck you! He's just pure insane genocdial wizard thing now!" and it sucked.

That's bad writing and the downside of the last season of DS9.
We are in agreement. He was easily one of the best characters the show had in terms of depth...then he had a weird twist at the end which didn't make all that much sense. Interesting how the man who killed his daughter, Damar, actually became a significantly better character after this happened. He didn't survive the show's ending though.

UnfairRepresent posted...
The same thing happened with Spike in Buffy and instead of making him kill babies they went whole hog with him and made him the best character in the show. Pissing off Joss Whedon so much he shoved James Masters against the wall and screamed that he was going to kill him.
I never watched that show, but that is funny in a sad kind of way.

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