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Topic	It feels like we're on a collision course for a Trump win
legendary_zell 03/06/24 7:20:03 PM #171:	Heineken14 posted... No, we're just supposed to ignore all of that because republicans are bad already so it totally doesn't matter. Point me to where I said this in this topic or elsewhere. You won't be able to because I never have. What you're supposed to do is tell people why Biden is good, not just why Trump is bad. And you're supposed to urge Biden to do popular and right things. That's what I want you to do, not ignore Republican fascism. I've said it outright, so I better not see you strawmanning again. CheshireSimper posted... It wasn't immediately obvious to me that this topic is actually "i'm taking part in a campaign to reduce enthusiasm for the democratic candidate and i'm feeling troubled to learn this might help trump win". This type of attitude is one of the things that scares me the most. You're trying to enforce conformity and silence by asserting that the people talking about his flaws in time to potentially address them are themselves causing him to lose. Like we all have a duty to go whistling to our graves. Well that's wrong and antidemocratic. Furthermore, regardless of issues I have with Biden, I wouldn't be making this topic if he had the same numbers he had in 2020. He doesn't though. I wanted Bernie to win in 2020 and yet I didn't make this type of topic. I wanted Bernie to win in 2016 and yet when Hillary failed to pull away as I fully expected, I ignored my instincts and suffered a terrible shock, as many others did. We don't want to repeat that mistake so we're sounding the alarm early. To accuse me of being part of a "campaign" to cause Biden to lose because of that is disgusting. I work for the Biden administration as a civil rights attorney. If he loses, I'll be forced to either implement fascism at work or likely be fired and permanently excluded from federal employment. I'm a black leftist immigrant. A Trump win would be catastrophic to everyone I love. I don't think the way to prevent that is to stick my head in the sand and hope for the best. I think it's to push for a fix while it's still possible to do so. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:979226652] in It feels l... [t:80714407]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>No, we're just supposed to ignore all of that because republicans are bad already so it totally doesn't matter.</quote>Point me to where I said this in this topic or elsewhere. You won't be able to because I never have. What you're supposed to do is tell people why Biden is good, not just why Trump is bad. And you're supposed to urge Biden to do popular and right things. That's what I want you to do, not ignore Republican fascism. I've said it outright, so I better not see you strawmanning again.CheshireSimper posted... </cite><quote>It wasn't immediately obvious to me that this topic is actually "i'm taking part in a campaign to reduce enthusiasm for the democratic candidate and i'm feeling troubled to learn this might help trump win".</quote>This type of attitude is one of the things that scares me the most. You're trying to enforce conformity and silence by asserting that the people talking about his flaws in time to potentially address them are themselves causing him to lose. Like we all have a duty to go whistling to our graves. Well that's wrong and antidemocratic. Furthermore, regardless of issues I have with Biden, I wouldn't be making this topic if he had the same numbers he had in 2020. He doesn't though. I wanted Bernie to win in 2020 and yet I didn't make this type of topic. I wanted Bernie to win in 2016 and yet when Hillary failed to pull away as I fully expected, I ignored my instincts and suffered a terrible shock, as many others did. We don't want to repeat that mistake so we're sounding the alarm early. To accuse me of being part of a "campaign" to cause Biden to lose because of that is disgusting. I work for the Biden administration as a civil rights attorney. If he loses, I'll be forced to either implement fascism at work or likely be fired and permanently excluded from federal employment. I'm a black leftist immigrant. A Trump win would be catastrophic to everyone I love. I don't think the way to prevent that is to stick my head in the sand and hope for the best. I think it's to push for a fix while it's still possible to do so. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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